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Despite his support for many gay rights issues, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has resisted endorsing same-sex marriage, calling instead for civil unions. A majority of black voters remain opposed to gay marriage. (Photo by Rick Bowmer/AP)


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Black opposition to gay marriage remains strong
Research shows opinions stubbornly unchanged despite growing mainstream acceptance

JOSHUA LYNSEN
Friday, July 11, 2008

Next week: Religion, politics shape black views on gay issues
Black pastor denounces ‘miseducation in the pulpit'

Despite growing support for same-sex marriage in the United States as measured by several recent polls, black Americans remain steadfastly opposed to gay unions.

According to research conducted by the National Black Justice Coalition and several other organizations, as many as two-thirds of black Americans are against gay marriage. Although the numbers vary by poll, research shows most blacks oppose both gay marriage and civil unions.

The findings come as some surveys show a majority of whites have dropped their objections to same-sex unions. A poll by Pew Research Center in May showed that fewer than 50 percent of whites object to gay marriage.

H. Alexander Robinson, executive director of the National Black Justice Coalition, said the continued opposition among black Americans shows that he and other advocates must recommit themselves to their work.

“I don’t think we have a moment to waste in making the case,” he said. “And quite frankly, we have to move these numbers.”

Released in April, the National Black Justice Coalition report notes that blacks “are virtually the only constituency in the country that has not become more supportive over the last dozen years” of gay rights.

It says Asian-Pacific Islanders showed the highest rate of support for gay marriage or civil unions at 55 percent. Support among whites was at 46 percent, among Latinos at 35 percent and among blacks at 23 percent.

The report notes those findings reflected “strong gains in each of these groups except for blacks.”

Some experts have been careful to note the findings should not be interpreted to mean that black Americans are the only ones who oppose gay marriage or civil unions.

“I know that we’re looking at one set of polling data about African Americans and their attitudes on GLBT equality, but let’s not use that data and suggest that gay people only face challenges in the African-American community,” said Cuc Vu, chief diversity officer for the Human Rights Campaign.

“There is a lack of support for LGBT equality in many other communities. In 2004, for example, we witnessed 6,000 Chinese Americans protest marriage in San Francisco. Homophobia is very real in every community.”

But it is, perhaps, best documented among blacks. A survey for HRC in March 2004 showed fewer than one-third of black voters said gays should be allowed to marry.

Twenty percent of that survey’s 600 respondents indicated they strongly believed that gays should be allowed to marry. Another 8 percent agreed that gays should be allowed to marry, but did not hold a strong position on the issue.

According to the survey, 50 percent of blacks strongly believed that gays should not be allowed to marry and another 11 percent agreed, albeit “not strongly.”

Four years later, surveys show the numbers generally are unchanged.

A national survey of 1,505 people by Pew Research Center in May shows 26 percent of blacks favor gay marriage, while 56 percent oppose it. By comparison, the same survey shows 40 percent of whites favor gay marriage and 49 percent oppose it.

Rev. Larry Brumfield, a black pastor at Westminster Church of the Brethren in northern Maryland, said he was saddened by the findings.

“I wouldn’t say I’m surprised,” he said, “but I’m a little put off by it because I feel that we have, as a people, as a group, as a demographic unit, we have not educated ourselves and learned and grown.”
Brumfield, who is straight, said too few blacks accept sexual orientation as the immutable trait many scientists believe it to be.

“I think a lot of folk think it’s a conscious choice,” he said. “But like blue eyes or green eyes, it’s how God made us.”

Robinson said although he and other gay activists have progressed in their educational work among religious and secular black communities, support for same-sex marriage has been agonizingly slow to materialize.

“African Americans, in large part, have been very resistant to any notion of discrimination against anyone, even when it comes to same-sex couples,” he said. “But we have not made the case yet that excluding same-sex couples from marriage is discrimination.”

Several prominent, straight black leaders have tried to help drum up support for same-sex unions.
Among those who have announced support for gay marriage are Coretta Scott King, the wife of Martin Luther King, Jr. who died in 2006; activist and former Democratic presidential candidate Rev. Al Sharpton; and Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), a prominent civil rights leader.

Julian Bond, chair of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, also is an ardent supporter of equal rights for gays.

“Many gays, many lesbians, worked side by side with me in the civil rights movement,” he said in 2005. “Am I supposed to tell them now thanks for risking their lives and their limbs to help me win my rights but that they are excluded because of the circumstances of their birth? Not a chance.”

But too many black Americans, Robinson said, are failing to hear the arguments.

“There’s a perception that our relationships are different,” he said, “and those perceptions are based on religious views about marriage and religiously derived notions about the purpose of marriage.”

Marriage aside, however, the National Black Justice Coalition report and other surveys have found that civil unions also are unpopular among blacks.

In 2004, 36 percent of the HRC survey’s respondents said they strongly opposed civil unions, while another 11 percent were generally opposed. The total opposed jumped this year to 53 percent, according to the Pew Center’s survey in May.

Robinson said opposition to civil unions runs high in part because the purely legal institution is seen as too close to its religious counterpart.

“Civil unions are seen as marriage light,” he said. “It’s not seen as substantially different.”

Also problematic, Robinson said, is that many fear that civil unions could put gay couples further along the path toward securing marriage rights.

He said many blacks thus advocate against civil unions because they believe “we have to hold this ground, because if we lose here, then everything else falls.”

Brumfield agreed. He said many blacks “think that gay, lesbian, transgender people have an agenda of some kind, an agenda that’s dangerous for our society,” and that agenda must be stopped.

“It’s seen as a first step. ‘If we allow them civil unions, the next thing they’ll want is their curriculum in schools, training our children to be gay,’” Brumfield said.

Robinson said gay rights activists working to win new allies often are challenged to overcome the suspicions and fears that are held by many black Americans.

“They see it as about much more than marriage,” he said. “It’s about trying to normalize homosexuals and homosexual behavior.”

But he said it’s essential that such fears are alleviated before greater problems develop.

“You have to understand how much of a threat that, potentially, these numbers suggest we’re under,” Robinson said. “I can’t help but fear that if left unchecked, that this will begin to erode support for other measures of protecting gay and lesbian people, because that’s how prejudice works.”

 

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stephenclark on 7/16/08  11:07 AM:
Some of the strongest advocates for gay rights are African Americans who see the similarities to the civil rights movement. At the same time, polls consistently show African Americans overall to be one of the more conservative demographics on gay rights, perhaps because of the strong influence of churches or perhaps related to the hypermasculinity among men, something that itself may have roots in racial oppression. Still, the group is no worse on gay issues than white evangelicals as a class. On the other hand, I suspect polling would show strong gay support for black civil rights issues.
Mr Chris on 7/15/08  7:04 PM:
Well there is nothing for me to do deal with. I'm Black and PROUD and I don't have many Blacks who are straight that are homophobic. By the way. And to say stop whinning and deal with it? Then I guess you 2 feel that it's okay when WHITES do this (homophobia). But then again you both sound like SNOW QUEENS. Hate everything about who you are and wish you were WHITE there is always cosmetic surgery.Both of you have MAJOR ISSUES. But to a racist Gay WHITE person in which most of them are NOT. You are definitely giving the Blade fuel for the fire. So much for racial unity!
arcanum202 on 7/15/08  4:23 PM:
LOL MzCountry, he makes you want to hate your own people...why? Because he called out fathers like mine, and fathers like his...and probably yours? Because he aired the dirty little secret of the black community know and tolerate and do nothing about, and challenge anyone to say something to them about it? I wish someone in a powerful position called my father out. I wish someone would have called some of my brothers out who have abandoned their children. He is in a postion to do it...Hate it all you like, the truth is a mutha. Quit your whinning and deal with it!
MzCountry on 7/15/08  10:49 AM:
In general, blacks seem to be against the institution of marriage whether it is between a man and woman or same sex couples. Oh, please. It's not just blacks not all blacks think the same. Any way on Barack Obama I think he is a ignorant person. He out of any one should know how it feels to be discriminated against.He makes me want to hate my own people.
arcanum202 on 7/15/08  10:36 AM:
To me, this issue, Gay Marriage, isn't even the real issue. This is the guise it is brought up under to justify a person's position on being able to discriminate within the parmeters of the law. Life really doesn't have to be complicated. We have allowed politicians and an infiltration by churches to make personal and private issues into hot button issues. It is all used to keep us from looking at the real issues, and holding them all accountable. As fast as gay people are allowed to marry, it will be another stupid issue. All while Bush is trying to start a fight with Iran, we are bamboozled!
True2you on 7/15/08  9:54 AM:
Furthermore, gay marriage does not effect black marriage because no matter how many of our men are locked up, too many kids, uneducated, abusive, date outside of their race, date within the same same sex we will be able to find someone to reproduce with. I did not say marry on purpose. We have to look at our own packaging to see if we would buy our own product. My packaging says open to love, independent, educated, career driven, and mom of one. What does your packaging say about you. There may not be enough quality black men to go around so will you stand out amongst the rest of the packages.
True2you on 7/15/08  9:39 AM:
I have read polls asking if gay marriage has a negative affect on marriage in the black community. I for one would not want to marry a man who really wanted to be with another man. If two people of the same sex choose to be together and get married so be it. We all have the right to decide who we wish to spend the rest of our lives with so I would not prevent gay marriage. Marriage is work but it also has benefits so if gay people are putting in the work why not allow them to share in the benefits. Remember there was a time when marrying outside of one's race was against the law.
arcanum202 on 7/15/08  9:35 AM:
And just one final question...I asked a female coworker what effect on her marriage would it be if me and my partner decided to get married...She couldn't say one word. She finally tried to justify it by using religion. I used her religion to ask her if she was having unprotected premarital sex with the man that isn't her husband she lives with, a sin...She acknowledged it was, but it was a worse sin for two men. I asked her to find the point-sin scoring system for me in the bible...crickets...but hell and eternal damnation ain't enough for her to give up that penis, or stop judging my life!
arcanum202 on 7/15/08  9:29 AM:
Thanks Blade for airing some of the dirty laundry in the black community. It needs to be outted. It needs to be discussed in a forum where "EVERYONE" can see just how ignorant and nasty black people can be. It needs to be seen just how easy they can holler discrimination, then turn right around and discriminate, and base it as being ordained by a god. They can ordain it as "them gays" trying to recruit. Pathetic, black people should realize being gay and black is no more a choice than being born black and straight. Like "gay" is contagious, and gay people have always been around...Idiots!
arcanum202 on 7/15/08  9:25 AM:
How about I just stay focused on "black" people, since "black" people have so overwhelmingly been responsible for most of the agony I have suffered in my life as a gay man. From physical attacks, to nasty comments, to being run out of "black" churches, to being outted and physically attacked in a Federal Government office that I worked in. Most of these things have been by "black" women, who I wouldn't want even if I were straight! Do I have issues? Yea. But don't think that I am not justified in my fear of homophobic black people, particularly black women...an angry lott they are!
Mr Chris on 7/15/08  4:10 AM:

THIS IS SOME REAL BULL*?&@! THE BLADE is pulling

Then I'd like to pose this question Joshua if Barack Obama got out of the race today. Would any of you at The Blade and some of White Gay America would really care?

And why you're not asking Whites of all persuasions about this? Oh I know Hillary Clinton isn't the nominee

You all should be ashamed the very thing you don't being done to you, Yoo all are doing it. Such Hypocrites

Doctor Whom on 7/14/08  6:56 PM:
To people who quote the Bible against same-sex marriage: Are you willing to follow what the Bible says about slavery? Do you even know what it says? Look it up. Also, if God's plan is one man and one woman, He forgot to tell the authors of the Old Testament, since marriage in the Old Testament was one man and up to 700 wives and 300 concubines. In short, read your Bible before telling the rest of us what it says.
Mr Chris on 7/14/08  5:02 PM:

Thanks "TryingToUnderstand" You're so right

But one thing it is showing by reading these comments is that we still have the continued RACISM and BIASNESS in this community. Also arcanum202 can you show me WHITE women where ALL fathers are all at home?

Lets take a trip to POOR WHITE AMERICA and you'll see the same thing. It's just not NEWS WORTHY as Blacks in the same situation

Talk about RABID mouths and WE want "EQUALITY" for gays?

TryingToUnderstand on 7/14/08  3:07 PM:
Most of the comments on here are a load of paranoid B.S. You have no idea really where these numbers came from yet you are quick to jump on BLACK WOMEN acanum202 because their so-called lack of accountability is what is holding the gay community back. No lets not place blame on any of the other factors that enforce oppression like education and views of the leadership. Yes it is black women with children out of wedlock who sit in congress and vote down referendums on gay marriage. Please think before you type arcanum, some of us black got off welfare and can read now. You're not helping anyone
arcanum202 on 7/14/08  1:26 PM:
One more thing, I hope I am not the first to say this. Neither me or my partner are feminine. We have no desire to be women, or to compete with women. If I could choose to come back in this life a gay black man, the most hated minority minority, over a straight woman, I would choose to come back the man everytime! Our community is so shallow in thought and reason. I think it makes it easier for them to justify their hate if they minimize who we (gay men) are. They choose to see us as feminine. We aren't. They think we compete with them, we don't. I don't want a straight man...
arcanum202 on 7/14/08  1:22 PM:
It could be paternalism. However, the fact remains that a man being gay or not, will not be a boon to black women regardless of his choice in a relationship. Black women are in part, a reason that there are so many unmarried single women. If black women held themselves accountable, by not having premarital sex (it is ok for them to have that sin), and then to have babies from the unions (that is an OK sin too in the black community) there wouldn't be this opposition to gay marriage. Black men are already telling women they don't need them. Black women are only cosigning the fact...
henry5 on 7/14/08  11:01 AM:
But is it really "religion," isn't that just dignifying intolerance, and missing the point? Maybe, rather, its paternalism. Is paternalism particularly strong in the black community? What are black mens' attitudes towards women? And do they see homosexuals basically as guys acting like women?
arcanum202 on 7/14/08  8:12 AM:
It is insane that the black community can willingly show how prejudiced they are, and ignorant. To support views that have been handed down to them from a religion that was used to enslave them, and to keep them slaves for over 400 years, is just insane. But it doesn't stop with only gay marriage, this god ordained ignorance and hate allows them to support child abuse, by throwing out their gay and lesbian children. It isn't a lie, I currently date a man that was thrown out when he was 13 by his religious parents. He has conquered insurmountable odds. The black religious are a sick lott!
Mr Chris on 7/14/08  2:22 AM:

Well for starters I’d like to know what Blacks they asked? they didn’t ask me

And I am feeling suspect about such a poll when Obama is the presumptive nominee I refuse to believe the we’re more than likely against Gay marriage when not all Blacks are religious and we don’t all have the same mind set. And it’s really starting irritate me with all this How Blacks feel about Gays, and Blacks being homophobic and if I’m reading Leland’s post correct that is an overall assessment of all Americans not broken down by race

Mr Chris on 7/14/08  2:22 AM:

And if that be the case. Why don’t we take a poll and see how race relations overall are in the Gay community. Please stop trying to create and find fault in Blacks just because Obama is the nominee for if he wasn’t Joshua would have never reported this

Mr Chris on 7/14/08  2:21 AM:

Things will never become civil with such subliminal acts as this. Just like on Queerty they post things subject of and all the responses are blaming Blacks for everything wrong with Gays. We’re the only ones who hate, and who attacks. I guess too bad we weren’t the ones who killed Matthew Shepard and we too bad Sam Brownback, Jesse Helms, etc aren’t African American…GO FIGURE

LGBT please these things are not indicative to Blacks it is to all and we must fight against ALL who don’t agree with our lives and equality and stop pointing out racial groups.

Ty602 on 7/13/08  11:43 PM:
Black culture is very old fashioned and needs to catch up, you can see it in their 1940's fashion looks... And what the hell are they doin' worshiping a single Jewish dude? They should get with more traditional African religions, and move forward! It's the nineties already, O-kay?
henry5 on 7/13/08  11:36 AM:
W-JOHNSON, discriminating against homosexuals, making our lives more difficult than they ever should be, is the "one thing" black people are getting right? That's it, nothing else?
wjohnson on 7/12/08  11:46 PM:
The one thing we are getting right as blacks. Jesus left grey areas, morality wasn't one of them. One man one woman for life was God's plan. I'm currently single and have an intimate friend. My belief system believes that I really should be married. Just because I don't live a perfect life means that I try to justify wrong as right. Also homosexuals are one of the most prosperous groups in this country. Every group gets some hate.
henry5 on 7/12/08  11:03 PM:
I am so sad to read this article. And a little angry. Why doesn't the civil rights movement inform more African Americans about the fight for gay rights? Obama has said some positive things about gay people; maybe that will help change some black people's opinions. Also, I have a question: can you please break down black opposition to marriage equality along geographic, age, education, income, and gender lines? E.g. I would be very interested to know if support for marriage equality is higher among say younger African Americans and black women.
FemLawyer31 on 7/12/08  1:30 PM:
Telluride, blacks are not against marriage in general... Just because there are people who don't marry does'nt mean they are against it! In the black community when people have children out of wedlock it is still viewed as sin and the kids are still illegitimate. Marriages between same sex are not ordained by God. Sorry that's the Bible! It kills me that because I don't agree with your life-style I'm called Phobic! Who the hell is scared of a Gay person? Bottom line, if you believe the teachings in the Holy Bible its wrong just like having children out of wedlock and other sin.
Leland Traiman on 7/12/08  10:42 AM:
Recent polls DO NOT show GROWING support for SSM. CBS News Poll.May30-June3,2008. "Which comes closest to your view?Gay couples should be allowed to legally marry.OR, Gay couples should be allowed to form civil unions but not legally marry.OR, There should be no legal recognition of a gay couple's relationship." Marriage 30%; CU 28%; No Recognition 36%; Unsure 6% Four years ago the same question: Marriage 28%; CU 29%; No Recognition 40%; Unsure 3% The June 2008 Newsweek poll was almost identical. NO CHANGE IN 4 YEARS. Source: http://www.pollingreport.com/civil.htm
ReasonableDoubt on 7/11/08  1:40 PM:
There is nothing wrong with having kids out of wedlock, telluride.
telluride on 7/11/08  10:50 AM:
In general, blacks seem to be against the institution of marriage whether it is between a man and woman or same sex couples. Don't believe me? Look at the statistics of married couples in the black community. But they see nothing wrong with having children out of wedlock.

 

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