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		<title>By: WGAY podcast &#8211; &#34;Prop 8 trial begins Monday&#34; : DC Agenda</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2010/01/07/prop-8-trial-begins-monday/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>WGAY podcast &#8211; &#34;Prop 8 trial begins Monday&#34; : DC Agenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vanhellslinger</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2010/01/07/prop-8-trial-begins-monday/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>vanhellslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SCIENCE VS GAY
 2-16-10
We have all seen or read of homosexuality in other species of animals.  It’s acceptable behavior because they are lower animals. We know it’s wrong because in our simplest understanding of biology, sex is for the creation of new life.
With human homosexuality, we tend to view those infected as we would others with birth defects and disease, consequently we embrace and protect them from harm.  Unfortunately gays are humans with minds, not cats and dogs, and what has happened is they have used this protection to enhance their predatory nature.  They have learned to accept their defect as normal, because it is normal in nature to have defects.  The problem is they misused the word normal, and now claim to be normal or free of defect.  They have twisted the reality of being defective/diseased people and created an illusion of being in a proper state of existence.
Science not religion, or the combination will prove the gays undoing.  We will soon create the technology to design sexual preference at birth.  Eventually homosexuality will be phased out of existence. After all what rational minded couple would choose their newborns to be gay?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCIENCE VS GAY<br />
 2-16-10<br />
We have all seen or read of homosexuality in other species of animals.  It’s acceptable behavior because they are lower animals. We know it’s wrong because in our simplest understanding of biology, sex is for the creation of new life.<br />
With human homosexuality, we tend to view those infected as we would others with birth defects and disease, consequently we embrace and protect them from harm.  Unfortunately gays are humans with minds, not cats and dogs, and what has happened is they have used this protection to enhance their predatory nature.  They have learned to accept their defect as normal, because it is normal in nature to have defects.  The problem is they misused the word normal, and now claim to be normal or free of defect.  They have twisted the reality of being defective/diseased people and created an illusion of being in a proper state of existence.<br />
Science not religion, or the combination will prove the gays undoing.  We will soon create the technology to design sexual preference at birth.  Eventually homosexuality will be phased out of existence. After all what rational minded couple would choose their newborns to be gay?</p>
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		<title>By: Feedback&#160;&#124;&#160;DC Agenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feedback&#160;&#124;&#160;DC Agenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Feedback&#160;&#124;&#160;DC Agenda</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2010/01/07/prop-8-trial-begins-monday/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Feedback&#160;&#124;&#160;DC Agenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say use legal tricks or whatever it takes to be treated equally.  This is 2010 and nobody should be denied equal rights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say use legal tricks or whatever it takes to be treated equally.  This is 2010 and nobody should be denied equal rights.</p>
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		<title>By: One Liberal Christian</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2010/01/07/prop-8-trial-begins-monday/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>One Liberal Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seeking equal rights through the courts a &#039;legal trick&quot;? Hardly. One major role of the Courts in our REPUBLIC, not a democracy, is the protection of minority rights against majority tyranny - read The Federalist Papers by Jay, Hamilton, and Madison.

And the present course by gay leaders to hide from Federal protection has hardly worked: 35 states ban same-sex marriage, NJ, NY booted it, MA, CA, and HI all overturned same-sex marriage laws.

Therefore it is only logical, and if we want equal rights now instead of waiting 20 years, we need to pursue all avenues available.  You may be 8 years old, so having equal marriage rights by 2030 would be ok, but for the majority of us that is simply too long.  It&#039;s now or it aint worth much when your 60 or 70 years old.

And besides, in 20 years most people will support gay marriage, so what do we have lose? If gay marriage is struck down, then in 20 years we can finally win it your way - through popular vote.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeking equal rights through the courts a &#8216;legal trick&#8221;? Hardly. One major role of the Courts in our REPUBLIC, not a democracy, is the protection of minority rights against majority tyranny &#8211; read The Federalist Papers by Jay, Hamilton, and Madison.</p>
<p>And the present course by gay leaders to hide from Federal protection has hardly worked: 35 states ban same-sex marriage, NJ, NY booted it, MA, CA, and HI all overturned same-sex marriage laws.</p>
<p>Therefore it is only logical, and if we want equal rights now instead of waiting 20 years, we need to pursue all avenues available.  You may be 8 years old, so having equal marriage rights by 2030 would be ok, but for the majority of us that is simply too long.  It&#8217;s now or it aint worth much when your 60 or 70 years old.</p>
<p>And besides, in 20 years most people will support gay marriage, so what do we have lose? If gay marriage is struck down, then in 20 years we can finally win it your way &#8211; through popular vote.</p>
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		<title>By: WGAY podcast &#8211; &#8220;Prop 8 trial begins Monday&#8221;&#160;&#124;&#160;DC Agenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>WGAY podcast &#8211; &#8220;Prop 8 trial begins Monday&#8221;&#160;&#124;&#160;DC Agenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 04:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sam Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In bringing prop. 8 to trial, we should remember the old Chinese proverb, &quot;Be Careful What you Wish For.&quot;

While I feel as strongly as most readers here about the need for marriage to be available to us, I cannot help but think that it will hurt us if we try to bully the will of the people through legal tricks.  Consider the abortion issue as an example.  It was getting close to be made legal in some places and situations with general support when the courts intervened and made an edict.  Now it remains a chasm in our public thought.  If abortion laws had changed in most places through legislative action, and bills to change them back failed several times it would considred a dead issue in the political world.  Only the &quot;gadflies&quot; would be pushing it.

Public opinion is evolving in our favour now that more people are out of the closet, and thus more people understand us as just regular harmless folks who care about their loved ones and their country.  Even basic rights for us, such as employment non-discrimination have gone from about 20% public support in the 1980&#039;s to 80% today.  Almost every poll shows stronger support for our rights from younger people in both parties and of many religious traditions.  We need to build on this trend and educate people and we need to be examples of solid couples and good citizens so this can all get resolved in our favour democratically.

...Sam Brown]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In bringing prop. 8 to trial, we should remember the old Chinese proverb, &#8220;Be Careful What you Wish For.&#8221;</p>
<p>While I feel as strongly as most readers here about the need for marriage to be available to us, I cannot help but think that it will hurt us if we try to bully the will of the people through legal tricks.  Consider the abortion issue as an example.  It was getting close to be made legal in some places and situations with general support when the courts intervened and made an edict.  Now it remains a chasm in our public thought.  If abortion laws had changed in most places through legislative action, and bills to change them back failed several times it would considred a dead issue in the political world.  Only the &#8220;gadflies&#8221; would be pushing it.</p>
<p>Public opinion is evolving in our favour now that more people are out of the closet, and thus more people understand us as just regular harmless folks who care about their loved ones and their country.  Even basic rights for us, such as employment non-discrimination have gone from about 20% public support in the 1980&#8242;s to 80% today.  Almost every poll shows stronger support for our rights from younger people in both parties and of many religious traditions.  We need to build on this trend and educate people and we need to be examples of solid couples and good citizens so this can all get resolved in our favour democratically.</p>
<p>&#8230;Sam Brown</p>
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