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	<title>Comments on: Supreme Court rejects D.C. marriage challenge</title>
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		<title>By: Skeeter Sanders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeeter Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your ignorance of our Constitution is astounding. You&#039;ve confused civil marriage with the religious sacrament of matrimony. The two are NOT the same. Matrimony was created by God, but civil marriage is a creature of the GOVERNMENT. 

And under our Constitution, &quot;no religious test shall ever be used&quot; as a qualification for any PUBLIC office or PUBLIC trust in this country (Article VI, Section 2). You cannot impose a religious law as the law of the state -- PERIOD. 

Civil marriage is none of religion&#039;s business. Matrimony is likewise none of the government&#039;s business. Jesus Christ himself laid the foundation for the separation of church and state when he said, “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s [Matthew 22:21].&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your ignorance of our Constitution is astounding. You&#8217;ve confused civil marriage with the religious sacrament of matrimony. The two are NOT the same. Matrimony was created by God, but civil marriage is a creature of the GOVERNMENT. </p>
<p>And under our Constitution, &#8220;no religious test shall ever be used&#8221; as a qualification for any PUBLIC office or PUBLIC trust in this country (Article VI, Section 2). You cannot impose a religious law as the law of the state &#8212; PERIOD. </p>
<p>Civil marriage is none of religion&#8217;s business. Matrimony is likewise none of the government&#8217;s business. Jesus Christ himself laid the foundation for the separation of church and state when he said, “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s [Matthew 22:21].&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Skeeter Sanders</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/01/18/supreme-court-rejects-d-c-marriage-challenge/#comment-13286</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeeter Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excuse me, but you obviously are a THEOCRAT who has no respect for our Constitution. Article VI, Section 2 clearly PROHIBITS the imposition of a religious test  to determine the validity of any person&#039;s qualifications for public office, or that of any public trust. Since civil marriage is a public trust under the Constitution, your comment is legally worthless. 

You can rant all you want about what the Bible says, but the Bible is NOT the supreme law of the united States. The Constitution is -- and the Constitution explicitly BARS the use of religion to justify discrimination, whether based on race, nationality, religion or gender,

And contrary to popular belief, barring gay and lesbian couples from marrying is GENDER-based discrimination, NOT sexual orientation-based discrimination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me, but you obviously are a THEOCRAT who has no respect for our Constitution. Article VI, Section 2 clearly PROHIBITS the imposition of a religious test  to determine the validity of any person&#8217;s qualifications for public office, or that of any public trust. Since civil marriage is a public trust under the Constitution, your comment is legally worthless. </p>
<p>You can rant all you want about what the Bible says, but the Bible is NOT the supreme law of the united States. The Constitution is &#8212; and the Constitution explicitly BARS the use of religion to justify discrimination, whether based on race, nationality, religion or gender,</p>
<p>And contrary to popular belief, barring gay and lesbian couples from marrying is GENDER-based discrimination, NOT sexual orientation-based discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: C Reese Nebeker</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/01/18/supreme-court-rejects-d-c-marriage-challenge/#comment-12975</link>
		<dc:creator>C Reese Nebeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God&#039;s Rites or Civil Right

SACRAMENTS :Baptism, Confirmation, Initiation, the Holy Meal, the Eucharist, Matrimony, Holy Orders, Clergy Investiture, Penance, Extreme Unction, and Funeral Rites.(http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Sacraments)

The churches are demanding that government not legislate the definition of sacraments. 
These are the provenance of GOD. 

Religion has good reason to be selfish of it&#039;s perrogatives. It has only the Grace of God and the Will of the Law to protect it. 

The nature of our law demands seperation of Sacred &amp; Mammon. The Law has no power to decide a question of morals. The churches have no power to legislate for all people. When religions dictate morals they are binding only on affiliates of that tradition. We cannot invest in a religious institution the power of legislation, nor remove from it the power of consecration. 

 We have no public argument about whom a church may accept into their membership. We have no legal restriction on who can be Priest or Priestess. There is no Civil Right to the partaking of the Lords Supper. There is no disagreement that we can dispose of our dead in a manner pleasing to our own spiritual dictates, as long as certain health issues are dealt with. Of all the sacrements of varrious religions, Mattrimony is the only one tied to law so tightly that people see it as inextricable. 

Deciding how domestic resources are allocated. Delimiting the number of offspring. Defining what the children are inculcated with. Divorce and Remarriage. Decreeing what health choices to make. Dictating what sexual practices are followed. The gender of participants. The number of partners in a union. Are any of these things that you want someone else&#039;s religion controlling? 

The only reason Marriage is any different is because of a legal entanglement that is, in itself, unconstitutional. If marriage had no legal standing, churches would be free to refuse or endow marriage consecration as Doctrine and Conscience dictate. When governments license and regulate a Sacrament such as Matrimony, that infringes on a religions right to regulate its Rites &amp; Doctrine, even its very Lexicon. Even if government can agree as to what a sacrament means, it has no power to grant said sacrament any legal definition, regulation, or recognition. Neither should any sacrament confer any legal rights or privileges, however traditional those rights may be. 

What religion fears is that, in Legalizing Gay Marriage the Church looses it&#039;s control.
This is in fact true. It looses control of defining a word by insisting that a word is proprerty. It looses control of defining its own sacrements because it refuses to allow a word be applied to the loving unions of all people. It looses its controll because of insisting that morals be made into law. It looses it controll of reason. 

Legal contracts for Property, Finances, Habitation, Conjugal Action, or Progeny must not be subject to the moral positions of any segment of a population. Name them something else. Cohabitation Contract for the Purpose of Progeny. Civil Union. Whatever. The Rite of Marriage can never confer nor share in those rights, responsibilities, or privelages. We can not condone the Rites of any religious tradition being legally binding. Marriage will stay sacrosanct only when it has been severed from any legal standing.

Having pitted God against the Law, God has remained inflexable. 

In refuseing to recognize the right of all people to chose their own domestic sittuation, and call that union marriage, the Church must forfit the inclusion of marriage in the realm of the Law. It must give up these rights that belong to unions, these responsibilities of being bonded,  the privelages of having loved. The contract of Marriage can no longer be authorized by law. 

It appears the controll that was truly lost was that of being inclusive of Gods providence.

Sanctity means sacred, blessed, hallowed.
We must protect the sanctity of marriage. 
I revere and bless your choice and act of living sacramentally married. 
I support the right to legally contract in any way you will. 
I long for the day when Civil Rights are equal.
This is what is desired. 
It can be achieved. 

NO Legal Right to Marriage = NO Rite of Legal Marriage]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God&#8217;s Rites or Civil Right</p>
<p>SACRAMENTS :Baptism, Confirmation, Initiation, the Holy Meal, the Eucharist, Matrimony, Holy Orders, Clergy Investiture, Penance, Extreme Unction, and Funeral Rites.(<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Sacraments" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Sacraments</a>)</p>
<p>The churches are demanding that government not legislate the definition of sacraments.<br />
These are the provenance of GOD. </p>
<p>Religion has good reason to be selfish of it&#8217;s perrogatives. It has only the Grace of God and the Will of the Law to protect it. </p>
<p>The nature of our law demands seperation of Sacred &amp; Mammon. The Law has no power to decide a question of morals. The churches have no power to legislate for all people. When religions dictate morals they are binding only on affiliates of that tradition. We cannot invest in a religious institution the power of legislation, nor remove from it the power of consecration. </p>
<p> We have no public argument about whom a church may accept into their membership. We have no legal restriction on who can be Priest or Priestess. There is no Civil Right to the partaking of the Lords Supper. There is no disagreement that we can dispose of our dead in a manner pleasing to our own spiritual dictates, as long as certain health issues are dealt with. Of all the sacrements of varrious religions, Mattrimony is the only one tied to law so tightly that people see it as inextricable. </p>
<p>Deciding how domestic resources are allocated. Delimiting the number of offspring. Defining what the children are inculcated with. Divorce and Remarriage. Decreeing what health choices to make. Dictating what sexual practices are followed. The gender of participants. The number of partners in a union. Are any of these things that you want someone else&#8217;s religion controlling? </p>
<p>The only reason Marriage is any different is because of a legal entanglement that is, in itself, unconstitutional. If marriage had no legal standing, churches would be free to refuse or endow marriage consecration as Doctrine and Conscience dictate. When governments license and regulate a Sacrament such as Matrimony, that infringes on a religions right to regulate its Rites &amp; Doctrine, even its very Lexicon. Even if government can agree as to what a sacrament means, it has no power to grant said sacrament any legal definition, regulation, or recognition. Neither should any sacrament confer any legal rights or privileges, however traditional those rights may be. </p>
<p>What religion fears is that, in Legalizing Gay Marriage the Church looses it&#8217;s control.<br />
This is in fact true. It looses control of defining a word by insisting that a word is proprerty. It looses control of defining its own sacrements because it refuses to allow a word be applied to the loving unions of all people. It looses its controll because of insisting that morals be made into law. It looses it controll of reason. </p>
<p>Legal contracts for Property, Finances, Habitation, Conjugal Action, or Progeny must not be subject to the moral positions of any segment of a population. Name them something else. Cohabitation Contract for the Purpose of Progeny. Civil Union. Whatever. The Rite of Marriage can never confer nor share in those rights, responsibilities, or privelages. We can not condone the Rites of any religious tradition being legally binding. Marriage will stay sacrosanct only when it has been severed from any legal standing.</p>
<p>Having pitted God against the Law, God has remained inflexable. </p>
<p>In refuseing to recognize the right of all people to chose their own domestic sittuation, and call that union marriage, the Church must forfit the inclusion of marriage in the realm of the Law. It must give up these rights that belong to unions, these responsibilities of being bonded,  the privelages of having loved. The contract of Marriage can no longer be authorized by law. </p>
<p>It appears the controll that was truly lost was that of being inclusive of Gods providence.</p>
<p>Sanctity means sacred, blessed, hallowed.<br />
We must protect the sanctity of marriage.<br />
I revere and bless your choice and act of living sacramentally married.<br />
I support the right to legally contract in any way you will.<br />
I long for the day when Civil Rights are equal.<br />
This is what is desired.<br />
It can be achieved. </p>
<p>NO Legal Right to Marriage = NO Rite of Legal Marriage</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Whom</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/01/18/supreme-court-rejects-d-c-marriage-challenge/#comment-12916</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Whom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You needn&#039;t bother telling me what the Bible says.  I already know the Bible better than you evidently know it, since I managed to spot some glaring Biblical errors in your post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You needn&#8217;t bother telling me what the Bible says.  I already know the Bible better than you evidently know it, since I managed to spot some glaring Biblical errors in your post.</p>
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		<title>By: EL Dorado</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/01/18/supreme-court-rejects-d-c-marriage-challenge/#comment-12807</link>
		<dc:creator>EL Dorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You do realize that anti-gay christian conservative groups are already working to get Congress to force a referendum on marriage equality in the district don&#039;t you? They are turning to the new House Majority to impose their agenda on the district. See what the Family Research Council had made that clear on their website!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do realize that anti-gay christian conservative groups are already working to get Congress to force a referendum on marriage equality in the district don&#8217;t you? They are turning to the new House Majority to impose their agenda on the district. See what the Family Research Council had made that clear on their website!</p>
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		<title>By: Will Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/01/18/supreme-court-rejects-d-c-marriage-challenge/#comment-12725</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a devout Christian, I personally believe that the Bible says *nothing* about homosexuality (as I understand the term), and therefore there are no Biblical grounds to attack our community. I wish Bishop Jackson and his followers would stop using the Bible as a fig leaf for their bigotry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a devout Christian, I personally believe that the Bible says *nothing* about homosexuality (as I understand the term), and therefore there are no Biblical grounds to attack our community. I wish Bishop Jackson and his followers would stop using the Bible as a fig leaf for their bigotry.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/01/18/supreme-court-rejects-d-c-marriage-challenge/#comment-12713</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rev. Anthony Evans and Harry Jackson do not speak for all clergy. If a preacher does not want to perform a wedding --whether it is a man and a woman or two women --they can say &quot;no.&quot;  There is no law that requires any minister to perform a wedding if they do not believe the couple should be married.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev. Anthony Evans and Harry Jackson do not speak for all clergy. If a preacher does not want to perform a wedding &#8211;whether it is a man and a woman or two women &#8211;they can say &#8220;no.&#8221;  There is no law that requires any minister to perform a wedding if they do not believe the couple should be married.</p>
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		<title>By: J Balestreri</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/01/18/supreme-court-rejects-d-c-marriage-challenge/#comment-12697</link>
		<dc:creator>J Balestreri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 05:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Rev.&quot; Anthony Evans wants to punish Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton by taking right of the citizens of DC to have equal repersentation in the House of Representatives,  huh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rev.&#8221; Anthony Evans wants to punish Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton by taking right of the citizens of DC to have equal repersentation in the House of Representatives,  huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/01/18/supreme-court-rejects-d-c-marriage-challenge/#comment-12690</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well that&#039;s it for the rotten homophobic bishop and his congregation of anti-gay bigots, because there are no more appeals now that the Supreme Court turned him down. I can&#039;t wait for his next queeny fit when same-sex marriage comes up in Maryland this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s it for the rotten homophobic bishop and his congregation of anti-gay bigots, because there are no more appeals now that the Supreme Court turned him down. I can&#8217;t wait for his next queeny fit when same-sex marriage comes up in Maryland this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So apparently there are no real problems in DC&#039;s black community... poverty, homelessness, drug addiction? It&#039;s nice the clergy has taken care of all those so now they can focus on the REAL crisis: a few gay couples they will never meet are getting married somewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So apparently there are no real problems in DC&#8217;s black community&#8230; poverty, homelessness, drug addiction? It&#8217;s nice the clergy has taken care of all those so now they can focus on the REAL crisis: a few gay couples they will never meet are getting married somewhere.</p>
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