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	<title>Comments on: Service members torn over coming out</title>
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		<title>By: Deryk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deryk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok.. once again I see the mention of &#039;congressional review&#039;  I&#039;ve seen this in articles here and there, but I don&#039;t see any mention of it in the original documents..  when did a congressional review become part of the 60 day waiting period?  someone show me where it&#039;s documented.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok.. once again I see the mention of &#8216;congressional review&#8217;  I&#8217;ve seen this in articles here and there, but I don&#8217;t see any mention of it in the original documents..  when did a congressional review become part of the 60 day waiting period?  someone show me where it&#8217;s documented.</p>
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		<title>By: Retired gay Army CW2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired gay Army CW2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been retired since 1997.  That doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m ready to be totally out.  There is still a bias in the general public about being gay.  I would have loved to serve as an openly gay man.  I would also love to live my life now as an openly gay man.  I&#039;m not conviced that it is religious bigotry or not, but I know that my being closeted can be traced to the &#039;nuture&#039; of my life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been retired since 1997.  That doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m ready to be totally out.  There is still a bias in the general public about being gay.  I would have loved to serve as an openly gay man.  I would also love to live my life now as an openly gay man.  I&#8217;m not conviced that it is religious bigotry or not, but I know that my being closeted can be traced to the &#8216;nuture&#8217; of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: steve Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IMHO I think being out is the most important thing gay people can do.  when people discover that those they know and respect are gay, those str8 people are innoculated against the hatred spewing from some churches.

Perhaps the big issue is the &quot;know and respect&quot; should come first.  As a gay man told me how he came out at work - &quot;If I walked in and told everyone the truth, I might have been run out of the place.  Instead I waited a year.

When I came out, the asshole homophobe was run out of the place.

BTW - I did something similar to that even though I am str8.  Worked at circuit city as a retirement job for 7 yrs till they died.  I was the totally out in supporting gay people, even though there was only perhaps one gay person in the store.

But I was also the one with the car license plate &quot;IMPEACH&quot;., or course referring to that idiot jesus freak Bush JR.

The store homophobe who had been there for 9 years suddently stopped coming in on time, sometimes didn&#039;t show at all.  They canned his ass.

He went over to Best Buy (surper good, even recruit employees at gay pride event0,  and got his ass fired, only can guess why - that he ran into a bunch of gay kids, workign theire - its obvious on most of them.

And the anxieties induced by his homophobic church got to him, he couldn&#039;t stand to see bush the hater demeaned, you can guess most of the rest.

the other piece - he was basically a decent, though certainly not too brilliant guy. His life is being ruined by his church.

Everyone is the victim of religious bigorty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO I think being out is the most important thing gay people can do.  when people discover that those they know and respect are gay, those str8 people are innoculated against the hatred spewing from some churches.</p>
<p>Perhaps the big issue is the &#8220;know and respect&#8221; should come first.  As a gay man told me how he came out at work &#8211; &#8220;If I walked in and told everyone the truth, I might have been run out of the place.  Instead I waited a year.</p>
<p>When I came out, the asshole homophobe was run out of the place.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; I did something similar to that even though I am str8.  Worked at circuit city as a retirement job for 7 yrs till they died.  I was the totally out in supporting gay people, even though there was only perhaps one gay person in the store.</p>
<p>But I was also the one with the car license plate &#8220;IMPEACH&#8221;., or course referring to that idiot jesus freak Bush JR.</p>
<p>The store homophobe who had been there for 9 years suddently stopped coming in on time, sometimes didn&#8217;t show at all.  They canned his ass.</p>
<p>He went over to Best Buy (surper good, even recruit employees at gay pride event0,  and got his ass fired, only can guess why &#8211; that he ran into a bunch of gay kids, workign theire &#8211; its obvious on most of them.</p>
<p>And the anxieties induced by his homophobic church got to him, he couldn&#8217;t stand to see bush the hater demeaned, you can guess most of the rest.</p>
<p>the other piece &#8211; he was basically a decent, though certainly not too brilliant guy. His life is being ruined by his church.</p>
<p>Everyone is the victim of religious bigorty.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael@LeonarddMatlovich.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael@LeonarddMatlovich.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OF COURSE, &quot;it&#039;s just a matter of time.&quot; That&#039;s NOT the point which is whether that time is too long. As you reported earlier, no less than DADT expert and Palm Center Director Aaron Belkin has said that &quot;It shouldn’t be a long process because the Pentagon ALREADY ESTABLISHED A POLICY TO ALLOW GAYS TO SERVE OPENLY in the military when [in the LCR case] a California federal court in October issued an injunction that temporarily enjoined enforcement of the law. &#039;Although they haven’t acknowledged this in public, THE REPLACEMENT REGULATIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN, and so the Pentagon could easily repeal the ban TODAY if there was the political will&#039;.” Emphasis mine.

A recent Palm Center study also documents that training does NOT need to happen before open service. Compare both of those facts with what SECDEF Gates—who&#039;s already delayed an end to the ban for two years—has said, that he  will NOT “certify” “until the Service Chiefs are comfortable that the risks to unit cohesion and combat effectiveness of a change have been addressed to their satisfaction and to my satisfaction”? In other words, he&#039;s contradicting the results of his own homophobic study: the majority of troops said they&#039;d be fine NOW with open service.

While eventually he&#039;ll run out of excuses, in the interim, that some self-annointed gay experts are continuing to be collaborationists with him because their backbones of self-respect are not yet fully developed is repulsive. Get off your knees, boys!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OF COURSE, &#8220;it&#8217;s just a matter of time.&#8221; That&#8217;s NOT the point which is whether that time is too long. As you reported earlier, no less than DADT expert and Palm Center Director Aaron Belkin has said that &#8220;It shouldn’t be a long process because the Pentagon ALREADY ESTABLISHED A POLICY TO ALLOW GAYS TO SERVE OPENLY in the military when [in the LCR case] a California federal court in October issued an injunction that temporarily enjoined enforcement of the law. &#8216;Although they haven’t acknowledged this in public, THE REPLACEMENT REGULATIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN, and so the Pentagon could easily repeal the ban TODAY if there was the political will&#8217;.” Emphasis mine.</p>
<p>A recent Palm Center study also documents that training does NOT need to happen before open service. Compare both of those facts with what SECDEF Gates—who&#8217;s already delayed an end to the ban for two years—has said, that he  will NOT “certify” “until the Service Chiefs are comfortable that the risks to unit cohesion and combat effectiveness of a change have been addressed to their satisfaction and to my satisfaction”? In other words, he&#8217;s contradicting the results of his own homophobic study: the majority of troops said they&#8217;d be fine NOW with open service.</p>
<p>While eventually he&#8217;ll run out of excuses, in the interim, that some self-annointed gay experts are continuing to be collaborationists with him because their backbones of self-respect are not yet fully developed is repulsive. Get off your knees, boys!</p>
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		<title>By: USAFSSGT</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/01/20/service-members-torn-over-coming-out/#comment-12772</link>
		<dc:creator>USAFSSGT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a relief to not worry about being kicked out regardless of if you chose to &quot;come out&quot; or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a relief to not worry about being kicked out regardless of if you chose to &#8220;come out&#8221; or not.</p>
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