Comments on: Minnesota gearing up for marriage fight

By: MartyMpls

MartyMpls — Mon, 30 May 2011 01:36:16 +0000

As far as our “rather peculiar system of counting a lack of vote as a vote against”, in California there was just under 1% of voters that skipped the prop. 8 question, so unless there is a major “Minnesota Nice” influence, I have think the non-vote will be similar in Minnesota, given the huge media buys that will no doubt happen.

It’s nice to see Al comment on this, I didn’t see anything on the local rag (StarTribune) on it. Al is a great guy, my partner and I have run into to him several times around the Senate recount fiasco, always a great sense of humor. And OMG, if we didn’t have Mr. Dayton as our governor, I would be off to London to live with my partner…

By: Hyhybt

Hyhybt — Fri, 27 May 2011 18:23:23 +0000

Ev… you *do* know it doesn’t work that way, right?

(Heck, if nothing else, even if things did work like that, your way would take a minimum of 20 years. At the rate things are going, we should have it taken care of nationwide in ten, at the most.)

By: evolutionisfact

evolutionisfact — Fri, 27 May 2011 14:30:28 +0000

Wanna “stem the tide” against hetero stupidity? Then someday very soon we’re going to have to start increasing our numbers!! This is strictly a numbers game folks! We now need to seriously begin the raising of our OWN offspring! GAY OFFSPRING!! The very way evolution intended!!

By: Barbie

Barbie — Fri, 27 May 2011 08:51:42 +0000

In terms of funding, maybe I’m being naive but I feel that the side that is for the amendment has large donations just waiting to be trucked in, where our out-of-state funding would be coming from more individuals. I think that we need to be aware of where the funding is coming from and inform the public when, for instance, an out-of-state interest group pushes a cool million into the fight. It could be that I feel it’s an uphill battle, but I just don’t think that the marriage equality side would have that kind of pocket money. Someone correct me if I’m way off base.

By: Hyhybt

Hyhybt — Fri, 27 May 2011 06:25:45 +0000

One problem with this: “We need to make sure it’s clear when funding is coming from outstate groups seeking to influence our constitution,” and that is that it would require not accepting such funding yourself. Is the moral high ground on that (if it even is one) worth fighting 50 states’ worth of money (because there almost certainly won’t be anything else similar in the same election cycle elsewhere) with only Minnesota’s?

Either way you go, and despite the fact that I’m not Minnesotan (so shoot me if you must) I’m greatly looking forward to NOMetc no longer being able to claim their side has never lost. Not that it’s *quite* true anyway; they neglect the first attempt in Arizona; but nonetheless, I’m looking forward to hearing them blame their loss on your rather peculiar system of counting a lack of vote as a vote against :)

By: Joe

Joe — Fri, 27 May 2011 06:08:18 +0000

If each of us who’ve ever felt discrimination just donated a few dollars to the cause, we can all stem the tide of losses and see a victory. We CAN win this. We ALL can help! Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere! JOIN the fight TODAY!

http://www.minnesotansunitedforallfamilies.com/

By: AtmosphereFan

AtmosphereFan — Fri, 27 May 2011 05:12:31 +0000

Well said, Albatross!

By: Alex

Alex — Fri, 27 May 2011 05:06:44 +0000

MN family council CEO publicly admitted that their mission is to bring the “Lord’s message to the legislative arena”. Nothing about religion as I think it has it’s place in a society but I think that organization is a fully blown lobby that should be deprived of their tax benefits.

By: Albatross

Albatross — Fri, 27 May 2011 03:37:02 +0000

The thing is, we need to be proactive and strategic in Minnesota, and learn from the battles in California and elsewhere. We can’t count on correcting the lies of the other side after the fact – nobody reads the corrections in the next day’s paper. We need to anticipate their lies and make sure everyone knows they’re lies when they’re uttered. We need to make sure it’s clear when funding is coming from outstate groups seeking to influence our constitution. We need to question the tax status of religious organizations supporting a political fight, and tell them up front that if they fund this amendment, they’re going to be reported to the IRS. We need to be out in FRONT of the bigots and their big money, we need to be out in the small towns with communications teams trained to discuss this issue with folks who may not know any homosexuals. We need to be SMART and we need to win.

By: Carissa

Carissa — Fri, 27 May 2011 02:20:41 +0000

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_176930325694605 Show your support for Gay Marriage Rights! Join others on Facebook June 1st, for the month of June, in changing your status to Married. Find a same sex friend or partner and set your status to married to them for the month of June. Even if you are already in a relationship, encourage your significant other to join in showing the world that we believe in equal rights! There is no good reason why anyone should limit marriage to a man and a woman.