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	<title>Comments on: Cain ignites firestorm with remarks on gays</title>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/10/06/cain-ignites-firestorm-with-remarks-on-gays/#comment-33791</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter, unless you are sexually attracted to members of both sexes -- it wasn&#039;t a choice for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, unless you are sexually attracted to members of both sexes &#8212; it wasn&#8217;t a choice for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul M Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul M Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is absolute horse puckey!  WOW!! &quot;..raised on a &quot;Gay Island&quot;.. vs &quot;hetero Island&quot;. Where did yoiu come up with this dribble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absolute horse puckey!  WOW!! &#8220;..raised on a &#8220;Gay Island&#8221;.. vs &#8220;hetero Island&#8221;. Where did yoiu come up with this dribble.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul M Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul M Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But Peter, you are missing the point. It’s not about whether Herman Cain is homophobic or not. It’s about his blatant ignorance or his disingenuous pandering to a narrow constituency in the face of conventional wisdom in order to make me look like the bad guy here.  Like many, I have fully accepted with much pride that, as a child of God, I am gay, just like I am black, male and five feet eleven. With all of my immutable human characteristics, I have created my life to be the best black, gay, and five feet eleven male that I can be, even in the face of religious demonization social stigma.  Of course if Cain and his ilk can convince themselves that it is my choice to be gay (and maybe even black or five feet eleven), then they can blame me, not themselves, for their demonization of  me. After all, I can’t be just another child of God, who conforms to his human condition just as each of them claim to do. Cain’s espousal that being homosexual is a conscious choice that flies in the face of conventional wisdom which consents that ones sexual orientation is an innate immutable characteristic of ones human nature just like my brown eyes and my curly hair.  It is not about whether any of us made the &quot;right choice &quot; or not.

Let’s not give Cain too much credit here however. Like most politicians, no one really knows what Herman Cain really believes accept Herman Cain. He will pander and grovel to the lowest instincts of his political constituency by saying what they want to hear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Peter, you are missing the point. It’s not about whether Herman Cain is homophobic or not. It’s about his blatant ignorance or his disingenuous pandering to a narrow constituency in the face of conventional wisdom in order to make me look like the bad guy here.  Like many, I have fully accepted with much pride that, as a child of God, I am gay, just like I am black, male and five feet eleven. With all of my immutable human characteristics, I have created my life to be the best black, gay, and five feet eleven male that I can be, even in the face of religious demonization social stigma.  Of course if Cain and his ilk can convince themselves that it is my choice to be gay (and maybe even black or five feet eleven), then they can blame me, not themselves, for their demonization of  me. After all, I can’t be just another child of God, who conforms to his human condition just as each of them claim to do. Cain’s espousal that being homosexual is a conscious choice that flies in the face of conventional wisdom which consents that ones sexual orientation is an innate immutable characteristic of ones human nature just like my brown eyes and my curly hair.  It is not about whether any of us made the &#8220;right choice &#8221; or not.</p>
<p>Let’s not give Cain too much credit here however. Like most politicians, no one really knows what Herman Cain really believes accept Herman Cain. He will pander and grovel to the lowest instincts of his political constituency by saying what they want to hear.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t agree with this statement at all. The reason gays and others are angered by this statement is the fact that he is talking about something he obviously has no knowledge of. It&#039;s like saying &quot;I choose to wear a red shirt today&quot; instead of &quot;I&#039;m born with red skin&quot;. We can change what we wear, but we can&#039;t change what we are. If he plans on being president, he&#039;ll have to really think about what he&#039;s saying before he becomes the &quot;Face of America&quot;. Hopefully this is a lesson learned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with this statement at all. The reason gays and others are angered by this statement is the fact that he is talking about something he obviously has no knowledge of. It&#8217;s like saying &#8220;I choose to wear a red shirt today&#8221; instead of &#8220;I&#8217;m born with red skin&#8221;. We can change what we wear, but we can&#8217;t change what we are. If he plans on being president, he&#8217;ll have to really think about what he&#8217;s saying before he becomes the &#8220;Face of America&#8221;. Hopefully this is a lesson learned.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Retracted. Comments posted in full. You are stand up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retracted. Comments posted in full. You are stand up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Flaherty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Flaherty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 03:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter asks — out of ignorance — why Cain is criticized for saying that homosexuality is a choice, and then Peter goes on to — again, ignorantly — repeat the same mistake.

Orientation and identity are not a choice.

Cain gets criticized because he’s wrong, and because he lamely says “show me the science” as if he already knows that there isn’t any science, when, in fact, many studies for many years have linked biology to orientation.

The factors that already linked biology with orientation include:  female fertility, fraternal birth order, orientation among twins, brain hemisphere size, hypothalamus size, brain area INAH-3, fluoxetine intake, suprachiasmatic nucleus, sex pheromone brain reaction, brain amygdala activity, left-handedness/ambidextrousness (more likely among homosexuals), counterclockwise men’s hair whirl (23% among gays, 8% among straights), women’s finger length ratio, Caucasian men’s limb/hand length compared to height, penis size (slightly longer, thicker penises in gays), reaction to men’s sweat aroma, eye blink after loud sound, verbal fluency (higher among homosexuals), object location memory in males (better among gays), hearing, vocal pitch, eye blinks, stress, and X chromosomes.

While the exact mechanisms and relationships need further definition, it remains undeniable that biology before birth is linked to orientation afterward.

Homophobes often say “there’s no gay gene” as their only evidence that orientation/identity are a choice.  But they’re wrong.  Temporarily being unable to identify any genetic cause is irrelevant, because other factors have already linked biology to orientation.  Genetic evidence may be identified later, or maybe never, but that no longer matters, as the biological link is already proven.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter asks — out of ignorance — why Cain is criticized for saying that homosexuality is a choice, and then Peter goes on to — again, ignorantly — repeat the same mistake.</p>
<p>Orientation and identity are not a choice.</p>
<p>Cain gets criticized because he’s wrong, and because he lamely says “show me the science” as if he already knows that there isn’t any science, when, in fact, many studies for many years have linked biology to orientation.</p>
<p>The factors that already linked biology with orientation include:  female fertility, fraternal birth order, orientation among twins, brain hemisphere size, hypothalamus size, brain area INAH-3, fluoxetine intake, suprachiasmatic nucleus, sex pheromone brain reaction, brain amygdala activity, left-handedness/ambidextrousness (more likely among homosexuals), counterclockwise men’s hair whirl (23% among gays, 8% among straights), women’s finger length ratio, Caucasian men’s limb/hand length compared to height, penis size (slightly longer, thicker penises in gays), reaction to men’s sweat aroma, eye blink after loud sound, verbal fluency (higher among homosexuals), object location memory in males (better among gays), hearing, vocal pitch, eye blinks, stress, and X chromosomes.</p>
<p>While the exact mechanisms and relationships need further definition, it remains undeniable that biology before birth is linked to orientation afterward.</p>
<p>Homophobes often say “there’s no gay gene” as their only evidence that orientation/identity are a choice.  But they’re wrong.  Temporarily being unable to identify any genetic cause is irrelevant, because other factors have already linked biology to orientation.  Genetic evidence may be identified later, or maybe never, but that no longer matters, as the biological link is already proven.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 13:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I took the time to reply, but it sems this newspaper decides for itself which views to print, and which to supresso. So I&#039; m done here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took the time to reply, but it sems this newspaper decides for itself which views to print, and which to supresso. So I&#8217; m done here.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 00:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is obvious to the proverbial blind man.  Cain is some sort of a church preacher, deacon or bishop.  You can hear it in his voice, see it in his body language.  I call a spade a spade.  This type will NEVER hear anything that does not agree with fixed dogmatic religious interpretation of the bible.  So his invitation to bring him &quot;the science&quot; is a rouse.  That is why when he is actually questioned on the subject, he has no answer.  He then dodges the question altogether by saying, &quot;Next question please&quot;.  The more one is deeply bound to organized religion, the lower the genuine intelligence of that person.  These two are diametrically apposed to one another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is obvious to the proverbial blind man.  Cain is some sort of a church preacher, deacon or bishop.  You can hear it in his voice, see it in his body language.  I call a spade a spade.  This type will NEVER hear anything that does not agree with fixed dogmatic religious interpretation of the bible.  So his invitation to bring him &#8220;the science&#8221; is a rouse.  That is why when he is actually questioned on the subject, he has no answer.  He then dodges the question altogether by saying, &#8220;Next question please&#8221;.  The more one is deeply bound to organized religion, the lower the genuine intelligence of that person.  These two are diametrically apposed to one another.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 23:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If being gay is hard-wired, and some here seem to be fairly convincing of that, then you must accept what you label &quot;homo-phobia&quot; as well. You can&#039;t have it both ways.

I was &quot;hard-wired&quot; a certain way myself. No one taught me to feel that homo-sexuality was distasteful...I just naturally feel that way. No one raised me to feel repulsed by it...it&#039;s just how I feel.

Look. I wish no harm to anyone. But I also resent being made out a bigot for not accepting a lifestyle which disgusts me. I&#039;m tired of all the &quot;in your face&quot; promotion of homo-sexuality by the media and Hollywood these days. What you do on your own is your business, but I resent you trying to make it mine.

So if you want us &quot;phobes&quot; to accept there&#039;s nothing you can do about it, accept there&#039;s nothing we can do to change the way it makes US feel.

You can&#039;t change your behavior, but I&#039;m required to. That&#039;s bull.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If being gay is hard-wired, and some here seem to be fairly convincing of that, then you must accept what you label &#8220;homo-phobia&#8221; as well. You can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
<p>I was &#8220;hard-wired&#8221; a certain way myself. No one taught me to feel that homo-sexuality was distasteful&#8230;I just naturally feel that way. No one raised me to feel repulsed by it&#8230;it&#8217;s just how I feel.</p>
<p>Look. I wish no harm to anyone. But I also resent being made out a bigot for not accepting a lifestyle which disgusts me. I&#8217;m tired of all the &#8220;in your face&#8221; promotion of homo-sexuality by the media and Hollywood these days. What you do on your own is your business, but I resent you trying to make it mine.</p>
<p>So if you want us &#8220;phobes&#8221; to accept there&#8217;s nothing you can do about it, accept there&#8217;s nothing we can do to change the way it makes US feel.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t change your behavior, but I&#8217;m required to. That&#8217;s bull.</p>
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		<title>By: aqua</title>
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		<dc:creator>aqua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe one actually has be gay to understand it, but it definitely is NOT a choice.  I did not choose to be attracted to men.  If fact, I struggled with it for a long time...even hated myself for it.  Why the hell would I choose that?  Now I accept it...I&#039;m gay...I did not choose it...I just am.  Did you make a choice to be heterosexual?  I doubt it...you just are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe one actually has be gay to understand it, but it definitely is NOT a choice.  I did not choose to be attracted to men.  If fact, I struggled with it for a long time&#8230;even hated myself for it.  Why the hell would I choose that?  Now I accept it&#8230;I&#8217;m gay&#8230;I did not choose it&#8230;I just am.  Did you make a choice to be heterosexual?  I doubt it&#8230;you just are.</p>
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