Comments on: Two-faced Ted Olson should be shunned

By: David Lampo

David Lampo — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:24:18 +0000

No, you’re not cynical, just a complete idiot for presuming to read people’s minds and know what they’re really up to. And of course, since Boies was a YR in college, he must by lying now!

By: Chris Cub

Chris Cub — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 09:06:15 +0000

Thank You Miss Log Cabin Republican…UGH!

By: Ken Olson

Ken Olson — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:11:13 +0000

It is no surprise, with this kind of ignorant, blind hate, that our country is so politically polarized. In Ted Olson, we have a man who stands for what he believes. He is defending the rights of people that he believes are having their constitutional rights violated, without regard to what political party they belong. Yet you demonize him. And, although you do not know him, you claim to understand his motives. Pitiful.

By: pogovio

pogovio — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 01:14:02 +0000

I may be cynical, but I never believed Olsen was interested in marriage rights for gays. Of course he understands that marriage equality is right, and marriage bans are violations of due process, equal protection, and full faith and credit. But his overriding concern has always been the interests of the Republican Party.

I wasn’t convinced about Boies either – he was president of the Young Republicans when he was in college. He has made a career out of taking cases for the side that pays him the most money, sometimes working for one side and later working for the opposite side. Boies is often called a “Democrat” by the press because he took Gore’s side in the 2000 election case, but Boies himself has never publicly claimed to be a Democrat.

I believe both Olsen and Boies took the Prop 8 case to try to get the marriage issue settled by the Supreme Court one way or the other as soon as possible. I don’t think they cared much which way it went. They wanted it settled because (like NY Republicans) they realized it was played out as a wedge issue garnering large numbers of votes for Republicans, and they knew we were entering an era where the Republican position would become damaging to the party.

By: Steve Rosenberger

Steve Rosenberger — Sat, 22 Sep 2012 05:49:46 +0000

While I share your dismay that Mr Olson is helping Lyin Ryan prepare for the debate, I suspect his point of view is a bit more nuanced than your “evil incarnate” characterization. It would be far more interesting and educational for you to request an interview with Mr Olson; I’d expect he would be quite willing to sit down with you. I do not believe his work to overturn Prop 8 was a stunt. Do your readers a service and investigate this a bit more.

By: Joe Hamilton

Joe Hamilton — Sat, 22 Sep 2012 01:23:13 +0000

Ted Olson: I LOVE AND RESPECT YOU. You are being true to who you are, and who you have always been, an attorney who (unfortunately) helped “W” win the White House. And yet, isn’t this the message that we in the LGBT community are always arguing should be respected?! “Being true to who I am, so respect me for it.”

Olson hasn’t joined the other side, preposterous, he is FROM conservative America. He never left it, and that is his “home”. In fact, he has endured the same argument from the Conservatives: that he joined the dark (Liberal) side in the fight for marriage equality. And now, true to his words, he is still trying to show conservative Americans that we can work together when we need to, even though we are different in so many ways.

If Ted Olson is a hypocrite, then I expect you had better get on the phone and call every person you know and love, who votes for a republican, or gives to their party, and tell them they are a hypocrite. Every last one. Do you really believe that? I don’t think so.

By: Patrick Savage

Patrick Savage — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:59:42 +0000

First off, you uninformed, shameful but yet true example of the declining standards of intelligence for American “journalists”, Ted Olson’s assistance to the Romney/Ryan campaign bears no correlation to the social policies he supports. We live in a country where our judicial branch is separate from our executive– things you should have learned in elementary school. Regardless of romneys views on homosexual rights, abortion, etc. , no laws will be magically created to combat these issues… That is up to our judicial branch, as we see in California. To say that Ted Olson is “two faced” is to say that we elect a president who implicates his religious beliefs on the nation (how could we forget JFK’s legendary ban on Jewish holidays!?)
When Ted publicly took on this trial, he showed the nation that not all Conservatives have conservative social outlooks. Just because one may want capitalism to remain in America doesn’t mean he or she must be pro-life for example.
California’s majority wanted gay marriage banned, but Ted reminded us that Constitutional rights are not put up to a vote. In the 1960s, the majority of California voted to pass a law making descrimination legal, but the courts combated this– checking the public because rights are guaranteed to all, as American citizens.

And one more thing, the conservative republican side is not “moving you back”. They represent an economic system that America become truly great with, and hopefully it will return one day. No matter the president be republic or democrat, conservative or liberal, as our nation ages, our people will continue to get more rights, just like black rights and women’s rights in the past.

By: David Lampo

David Lampo — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:03:30 +0000

The only people who should be shunned are the partisan hacks like Mr. Rosenstein, who actually seems to believe that sustained legal equality for gays and lesbians can be realized through the support of only one of the two major political parties. Instead of celebrating the fact that more and more prominent Republicans like Mr. Olson are supporting gay rights and same-sex marriage, Rosenstein has determined that since they’re not all on board, they all suck and are the enemy. The fact is that Ted Olson has done more for glbt rights than Mr. Rosenstein and all his fellow carping liberal bloggers combined, and for Rosenstein to state that Ted took the Prop. 8 case merely to “add luster to his legal resume” is pathetic, as I’m sure all the Democratic attorneys and activists who have worked with Mr. Olson on this great victory would attest. I also find his premise that one cannot in good conscience support a candidate with whom one disagrees on gay rights very interesting coming from someone who no doubt supported Bill Clinton in both of his runs for president. Now Clinton certainly touted himself as pro-gay rights, and gay Democrats were mostly gaga over him. So much so that when Clinton gave us Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, they called it a reform and excused its inherent homophobia. When Clinton supported and signed the Defense of Marriage Act (which “enshrined discrimination” in federal law), I don’t recall any prominent gay Democrats renouncing or “shunning” Clinton because he was on the “wrong side of history” and was “an example of hypocrisy of the worst kind.” In fact, they campaigned for and voted for him. And when Clinton ran ads on Christian radio stations in 1996 reminding listeners of his support for DOMA and their shared values, Rosenstein and his fellow gay Democrats were silent. So apparently supporting your party’s candiate for president even when you disagree with his various positions on gay rights is permissible ONLY if you’re a Democrat; otherwise, you’re giving aid and comfort to the enemy. In Rosenstein’s world, only Democratic politicians can change their minds on gay rights and become more supportive over time, never Republicans. The thing is, Mr. Rosenstein’s world is not the REAL world, just the make believe world of a Democratic Party apparatchik more interested in self promotion than actually building sustainable social and political change.

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