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	<title>Comments on: Va. lawmakers kill proposal to repeal gay marriage ban</title>
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		<title>By: New Zealand is for Lovers: 92% chance - My Note Book &#124; My Note Book</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2013/01/14/va-lawmakers-kill-proposal-to-repeal-gay-marriage-ban/#comment-94397</link>
		<dc:creator>New Zealand is for Lovers: 92% chance - My Note Book &#124; My Note Book</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] In January, a legislative subcommittee killed an attempt to repeal the Marshall-Newman amendment. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In January, a legislative subcommittee killed an attempt to repeal the Marshall-Newman amendment. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gary47290</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary47290</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Aging, out of touch Richmond legislative committee members don’t see those changes, nor do they care to see them.&quot;

A lot of those who are out of touch are relatively young. The problem for them and the GOP nationally, is that the electorate is no longer dominated by straight white men and their Stepford wives. We saw this with the overwhelming break in the last election of Asian Americans and Latinoa for Obama.  The raw demographics and culture would have suggested they are more sympathetic to the Republicans, but the &quot;straight white men only&quot; platform chased both groups away, and in to the Obama camp.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Aging, out of touch Richmond legislative committee members don’t see those changes, nor do they care to see them.&#8221;</p>
<p>A lot of those who are out of touch are relatively young. The problem for them and the GOP nationally, is that the electorate is no longer dominated by straight white men and their Stepford wives. We saw this with the overwhelming break in the last election of Asian Americans and Latinoa for Obama.  The raw demographics and culture would have suggested they are more sympathetic to the Republicans, but the &#8220;straight white men only&#8221; platform chased both groups away, and in to the Obama camp.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of wasting millions suing California to overturn prop 8 (which is still necessary), Boies and Olsen should have sued to overturn the Marshall-Newman amendment. This law bans private contracts as well, a prima facie violation of the contracts clause in the US Constitution.  Overturning the amendment on such a slam dunk would force Virginia to revisit the debate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of wasting millions suing California to overturn prop 8 (which is still necessary), Boies and Olsen should have sued to overturn the Marshall-Newman amendment. This law bans private contracts as well, a prima facie violation of the contracts clause in the US Constitution.  Overturning the amendment on such a slam dunk would force Virginia to revisit the debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Cuccinelli reaffirms gay marriage opposition &#124; Gay News &#124; Washington Blade - America&#039;s Leading Gay News Source</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cuccinelli reaffirms gay marriage opposition &#124; Gay News &#124; Washington Blade - America&#039;s Leading Gay News Source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 21:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Cuccinelli, who will likely face former Democratic National Committee Chair Terry McAuliffe in Virginia’s 2013 gubernatorial election, spoke with DePuyt a day after same-sex marriage supporters gathered in Arlington, Charlottesville, Hampton, Richmond and Winchester to rally against the state constitutional ban on nuptials for gays and lesbians that Virginia voters approved in 2006. A Virginia House of Delegates subcommittee last month killed a bill sponsored by state Del. Scott Surovell (D-Fairfax) that would have repealed the Marshall-Newman Amendment. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Cuccinelli, who will likely face former Democratic National Committee Chair Terry McAuliffe in Virginia’s 2013 gubernatorial election, spoke with DePuyt a day after same-sex marriage supporters gathered in Arlington, Charlottesville, Hampton, Richmond and Winchester to rally against the state constitutional ban on nuptials for gays and lesbians that Virginia voters approved in 2006. A Virginia House of Delegates subcommittee last month killed a bill sponsored by state Del. Scott Surovell (D-Fairfax) that would have repealed the Marshall-Newman Amendment. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Will Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 07:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;ll come down to the supreme court unfortunately. Why delegates like Bob Marshall keep getting elected is beyond me. But, it&#039;s true what Brian said down in the comments below. The state is getting bluer, and warming up to the idea of marriage equality, though our voices seem to fall on deaf ears in the general assembly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;ll come down to the supreme court unfortunately. Why delegates like Bob Marshall keep getting elected is beyond me. But, it&#039;s true what Brian said down in the comments below. The state is getting bluer, and warming up to the idea of marriage equality, though our voices seem to fall on deaf ears in the general assembly.</p>
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		<title>By: Equality Virginia holds annual lobby day &#124; Gay News &#124; Washington Blade - America&#039;s Leading Gay News Source</title>
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		<dc:creator>Equality Virginia holds annual lobby day &#124; Gay News &#124; Washington Blade - America&#039;s Leading Gay News Source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] House of Delegates subcommittee earlier this month killed a proposal that would have repealed the commonwealth’s voter-approved constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, but advocates maintain SB 701 and Thorne-Begland’s appointment prove the state&#8217;s LGBT [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] House of Delegates subcommittee earlier this month killed a proposal that would have repealed the commonwealth’s voter-approved constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, but advocates maintain SB 701 and Thorne-Begland’s appointment prove the state&#8217;s LGBT [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doug in Maryland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug in Maryland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a former constituent of Delegate Surovell&#039;s I just want to commend him for his efforts.  Job well done.  I think the LGBT community in Virginia has a friend in Scott!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former constituent of Delegate Surovell&#8217;s I just want to commend him for his efforts.  Job well done.  I think the LGBT community in Virginia has a friend in Scott!</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Virginia is going to have to re-visit this issue either because the public demands it, because we are forced to by the Supreme Court or because corporations make it clear that they’d rather move to D.C. or Maryland in order to protect their employees,” he told the Blade in a statement. “

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For sure, decisions by the Supreme Court (less than 6 months from now), future executive action by the president, plus relocating employers fearful of competition for (and potential discrimination lawsuits by) its high-tech, educated workforce will beat, by a long mile, any serious political action for LGBTs likely to come out of Richmond&#039;s GOP wackos.

Still, public opinion continues to improve all across Virginia, even now, as more LGBT natives come out and new LGBT arrivals create emerging local realities. Aging, out of touch Richmond legislative committee members don&#039;t see those changes, nor do they care to see them.

Delegate Krupicka&#039;s comment is really spot on. Most Virginians-- and most of both parties, I think-- take the view that what&#039;s bad for business is bad for Virginia. When discrimination clearly becomes bad for the Commonwealth&#039;s business climate, especially from federal action, I think things will change very rapidly.

Even just a SCOTUS strike-down this June of DOMA&#039;s Section 3 will have a profound impact on hastening that whole process. Of course a broad SCOTUS decision in favor of Prop 8 Plaintiff&#039;s position in June, basically affirming Judge Walker&#039;s decision, will sweep aside Virginia&#039;s and all other state constitutional marriage equality bans and state DOMAs.

In that happy event, Virginia businesses, their lawyers and maybe even crustacean legislators will quickly move to prevent discrimination lawsuits in the workplace, too. On the other hand, if SCOTUS votes for more incremental change, then Virginian&#039;s public opinion will continue to improve, but prevailing for LGBTs a good bit later. 

Even at our most pessimistic, it is hard to imagine-- given SCOTUS&#039; past decisions, its current L/R makeup, as well as Chief Justice Roberts&#039; surprising left turn on health care reform last term-- that the combined outcome of both cases will be anything but a net positive impact for LGBT marriage equality and LGBT workplace discrimination protection efforts across the nation.

LGBT issues aside, Virginia is still looking slightly &#039;bluer&#039;. Both of its Democratic U.S. senators are popular. Its new Senator Tim Kane will even likely be a bit more to the left of just-retired Democratic Senator Jim Webb. The bigotry of George Allen&#039;s/ GOP &#039;brand&#039; was decisively rejected by Virginians TWICE in a row-- over a six-year time span.

LGBT population strongholds in Northern Virgina, Richmond and Tidewater continue to grow. Moreover, to the west, aside from its sheer beauty, the Blue Ridge/ US 29 and I-81 corridors-- with their strong education bases-- have become a noticeable draw for LGBTs migrating to the Charlottesville, Harrisonburg, Roanoke/Salem and Blacksburg areas. 

Outside of Richmond&#039;s petty state politics, I think for LGBT Virginians, the Commonwealth is clearly a &#039;purpling&#039; state with a decidedly UP blue trend line going forward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Virginia is going to have to re-visit this issue either because the public demands it, because we are forced to by the Supreme Court or because corporations make it clear that they’d rather move to D.C. or Maryland in order to protect their employees,” he told the Blade in a statement. “</p>
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For sure, decisions by the Supreme Court (less than 6 months from now), future executive action by the president, plus relocating employers fearful of competition for (and potential discrimination lawsuits by) its high-tech, educated workforce will beat, by a long mile, any serious political action for LGBTs likely to come out of Richmond&#8217;s GOP wackos.</p>
<p>Still, public opinion continues to improve all across Virginia, even now, as more LGBT natives come out and new LGBT arrivals create emerging local realities. Aging, out of touch Richmond legislative committee members don&#8217;t see those changes, nor do they care to see them.</p>
<p>Delegate Krupicka&#8217;s comment is really spot on. Most Virginians&#8211; and most of both parties, I think&#8211; take the view that what&#8217;s bad for business is bad for Virginia. When discrimination clearly becomes bad for the Commonwealth&#8217;s business climate, especially from federal action, I think things will change very rapidly.</p>
<p>Even just a SCOTUS strike-down this June of DOMA&#8217;s Section 3 will have a profound impact on hastening that whole process. Of course a broad SCOTUS decision in favor of Prop 8 Plaintiff&#8217;s position in June, basically affirming Judge Walker&#8217;s decision, will sweep aside Virginia&#8217;s and all other state constitutional marriage equality bans and state DOMAs.</p>
<p>In that happy event, Virginia businesses, their lawyers and maybe even crustacean legislators will quickly move to prevent discrimination lawsuits in the workplace, too. On the other hand, if SCOTUS votes for more incremental change, then Virginian&#8217;s public opinion will continue to improve, but prevailing for LGBTs a good bit later. </p>
<p>Even at our most pessimistic, it is hard to imagine&#8211; given SCOTUS&#8217; past decisions, its current L/R makeup, as well as Chief Justice Roberts&#8217; surprising left turn on health care reform last term&#8211; that the combined outcome of both cases will be anything but a net positive impact for LGBT marriage equality and LGBT workplace discrimination protection efforts across the nation.</p>
<p>LGBT issues aside, Virginia is still looking slightly &#8216;bluer&#8217;. Both of its Democratic U.S. senators are popular. Its new Senator Tim Kane will even likely be a bit more to the left of just-retired Democratic Senator Jim Webb. The bigotry of George Allen&#8217;s/ GOP &#8216;brand&#8217; was decisively rejected by Virginians TWICE in a row&#8211; over a six-year time span.</p>
<p>LGBT population strongholds in Northern Virgina, Richmond and Tidewater continue to grow. Moreover, to the west, aside from its sheer beauty, the Blue Ridge/ US 29 and I-81 corridors&#8211; with their strong education bases&#8211; have become a noticeable draw for LGBTs migrating to the Charlottesville, Harrisonburg, Roanoke/Salem and Blacksburg areas. </p>
<p>Outside of Richmond&#8217;s petty state politics, I think for LGBT Virginians, the Commonwealth is clearly a &#8216;purpling&#8217; state with a decidedly UP blue trend line going forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Brice Robert Kohler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brice Robert Kohler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Virginia is for Lovers&quot; only if we approve of it then vote and pass a bill saying it&#039;s OK.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Virginia is for Lovers&quot; only if we approve of it then vote and pass a bill saying it&#039;s OK.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ridky</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonblade.com/2013/01/14/va-lawmakers-kill-proposal-to-repeal-gay-marriage-ban/#comment-89943</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ridky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not surprised. In Virginia if you take away Northern Virginia and the Tidewater area, what do you have left? Mississippi!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprised. In Virginia if you take away Northern Virginia and the Tidewater area, what do you have left? Mississippi!</p>
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