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Kristine W.’s triumphant return
Dance diva readies new album, Distrkt C appearance
Distrkt C Pride
An indoor/outdoor music festival and concert
Saturday, June 10
10 p.m.
Official men’s party of Capital Pride
DJs Jared Conner and Joe Gauthreaux
Grind
Inaya Day
Sunday, June 11
5 p.m.
Outside: disco and classics with Billy Carroll
Concert starts at 8:30 p.m.
Crystal Waters
Kristine W
Kim English
Inside: T dance at 6 p.m. with Roland Belmares
10 p.m.
X Gonzalez
Twisted Dee
Morabito
Amuka
D.C. Eagle
3701 Benning Rd., N.E.
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Many artists who are lucky to chart hits on the Billboard charts at all often see the law of diminishing returns kick in gradually over time, even with consistently good material.
Somehow, though, Kristine W. has managed to maintain a staggeringly impressive record on the U.S. Dance charts. She’s had 14 no. 1 singles over a nearly 20-year period. Of the 19 singles she’s charted there, the lowest she ever peaked at was no. 4. She had another smash last summer with “Out There,” which made it to No. 3.
She’s in D.C. this weekend to headline at the Distrkt C Pride Indoor/Outdoor Festival & Concert. She spoke by phone with the Blade, her first interview with us since 2012, last week, from her home in Las Vegas. Her comments have been slightly edited for length.
WASHINGTON BLADE: How’ve you been?
KRISTINE W.: It’s been a challenging year. It just seems like a lot of people around me are going through some transition. It’s a time of change. It could be life, jobs or relationships. Last year I wrote the song “Out There” which is really strange because now I’m going through a divorce. It’s really strange how I keep writing this music and it ends up being real life. “Land of the Living” was one of those albums. It was like I wrote it then I had to live it.
BLADE: Are the songs more universal than you originally realized or do you have a sixth sense?
KRISTINE W.: I think they’re more universal than I really thought, although my grandfather had this gift of kind of seeing into the future and so did his mother, my grandmother, Elizabeth who I’m named after. I don’t know if I didn’t get some of that too. Sometimes I get certain signs in dreams or I’ll get this really weird epiphany. I fight it all the time but sometimes it just kind of overtakes me.
BLADE: What was your favorite remix of “Out There,” your latest hit?
KRISTINE W: I think the Moto Blanco mix. But I also like the original mix that’s going to be on the album because it takes you on a journey. That album mix as far as watching a crowd having a good time but … at a Pride event, the Moto Blanco mix is so uplifting, you can just see everybody get lifted up from it. It’s a very happy production.
BLADE: Do you collaborate on the remixes at all?
KRISTINE W.: Oh yeah. So many of them have known me enough years that we kind of know each other’s audiences, we play a lot of big events, we know what kind of works, we have personal relationships and it’s very cool. … I try to use the remixes to cover as big of a territory as possible. The Loop Soop version is like a tropical, Miami kind of vibe so that’s kind of like sipping cocktails and chilling at your house. If you pick ‘em right, they can afford you a chance of reaching a wider audience than if you just put out a couple versions.
BLADE: Tell us about your upcoming single “Stars.”
KRISTINE W.: “Stars” is really special. It’s a song I wrote a couple yars ago and kind of sat on but in a strange way, it’s kind of mirroring my life right now and what I’m going through. But not just for me, it’s universal. … Everybody who listens to it it’s like there’s a piece of them in it. You can just see it in their reaction. … We’re working on some really cool remixes of it right now.
BLADE: When will it be out?
KRISTINE W.: We’re shooing for Independence Day but it’s a little crazy right now. We have to get it in the queue. It’s gonna come down to how soon I can get pushed through the line.
BLADE: You were talking about a new album last summer when “Out There” came out. What’s the status on that?
KRISTINE W.: The album is finished. We’re probably going to put out a couple singles, then drop the album or maybe put it on pre-order. We’re looking into that right now. But it’s gonna be amazing.
BLADE: What’s it like? When did you make it and how long did it take?
KRISTINE W.: We started about six months after “New & Number Ones” so like mid-2012 we were working on it. We’ve written a lot of songs. I’m thinking it’s actually going to be like two back-to-back albums and not wait as long to put another one out because we have like 15 or 16 tracks total. Then we’re recording naked versions, you know, stripped-down versions of the songs because people really enjoy those. I’ve worked with a lot of songwriters from all over the place. I just finished a song with Chris Cox and Lee Jagger called “Found a Home.” “Next to You” is being produced right now. I think it’s gonna be a little bit different the way we release this next batch of music.
BLADE: Are you of the opinion that the song has to work acoustically first or not necessarily?
KRISTINE W.: Well obviously like with the Chainsmokers, a lot of their songs are just a big, fat hook and then maybe a lyrical a hook. Maybe half a verse or something. They’re not making very complicated songs. They were just on “Saturday Night Live” and were with a band … and I noticed they’d added more structure. For me, it’s better to just write a song. Then if you want to do a stripped-down version, you can. I’m a songwriter, I’m a fan of songs, but I respect the fact that a lot of people have ADD.
BLADE: You were recently named the No. 8 dance artist of all time by Billboard. How did you feel?
KRISTINE W.: I thought somebody had made a mistake at first. It was so overwhelming. I just sat in my kitchen and cried. It was weird but very cool.
BLADE: Is it easier to chart a dance cut if it was a pop hit first or not necessarily?
KRISTINE W.: Everybody’s going to the dance chart now because the pop charts are so expensive to try to compete in. … To get airplay now is just so expensive. It’s like seven grand a week to get into rotation so the labels are all going to the dance club. So that geets really tough too because you have these independent artists like myself trying to compete with the Chainsmokers on the dance chart and every other pop person who’s crossed over, so it’s really crazy right now, really difficult. That’s why so many people you used to see having records, they’re not putting them out anymore because it’s so hard to get a No. 1 or even a top 5 hit now, it’s crazy.
BLADE: How have you managed to keep it going for so many years?
KRISTINE W.: I just try to keep writing good songs and try to work with the best people possible that I can afford (laughs). Just keeping my eye on the songs, focusing on the messages and hoping they connect with people. And also what I said before about the different styles. You might be able to get on a different Spotify list with a Frank Lords Miami tropical mix then you can doing a Hans Milan EDM mix. Now that everything is streaming, Spotify, Pandora, blah blah blah, that’s gonna be the future, so getting on those playlists is no small feat. So you might get on two playlists with two different mixes but the labels are freaking out because they don’t want to spend the money on a bunch of remixes either necessarily. If you’re not friends with these people, like a remix by Ralphi Rosario or whatever is like 10 grand, you know. It’s very expensive. So the labels are stepping back going, “Oh shit.” Ralphi doesn’t kow any of those guys. They’re just suits to him so he can demand whatever. On the flip side, there are a lot of great young remixers who are the future. I know a lot of them and have given a lot of them their shots, like the Perry Twins for example. They did “Be Alright” for me and then they blew up. I don’t want to call myself a major artist, but they needed a big artist to give them a shot. … I tell them if it’s crap, I won’t put it out but if it’s great, I’ll promote the crap out of you in press and everything and tell everyone to hire them. So then you can go back later and say, “Hey guys, you mind doing me something solid,” and they’re like, “Yeah sister.” It’s like a really crazy family.
BLADE: How are your two kids? What’s it like being a mom to two teens?
KRISTINE W.: They’re super cool. I’ve got two great kids. Everybody goes, “Oh, you just got lucky,” but I don’t think it’s luck. I think it’s just trying to be there, you’re annoying as heck. A very wise lady, my mother-in-law who passed away in 2013, she said you better be there because if you’re not, somebody else will be and you won’t be happy with the outcome. I never forgot that.
BLADE: Have your gay fans reached out to you at all since your divorce?
KRISTINE W.: I haven’t really talked about it much. It’s tough enough going through it, I don’t dwell on it. I have to get up there and make the world a happier place one song at a time so I haven’t talked about it too much.
BLADE: Of course a song is gonna sound great on the huge speakers in a big state-of-the-art dance club but people listen on their phones, with these crap ear buds and so on. How do you make something that’s gonna work across the board? Are you conscious of compression without losing fidelity when you record?
KRISTINE W.: It’s a huge issue and you really have to be conscious of that in mastering so the track doesn’t sound too digital. If everything sounds too teh-teh-teh (makes a thin-sounding percussion effect), you can only stand to listen to it for so long. You just want to turn it off, it’s too much for the ear. All the classic artists, that was all cut on 2-inch tape so it’s all analog which is very warm sounding to the human ear. You could listen all day and love it. But the way we’ve gone digital with everything so you have to really be conscious of that in mastering.
BLADE: What do you have planned for the Distrkt C event? You’re co-headlining with Crystal Waters and Kim English.
KRISTINE W.: Those girls are super cool. I don’t think I’ve ever met Kim English so that will be a thrill. Crystal and I are good buddies so I’m really excited to be spending time with her and getting to meet Kim English because I’ve heard her name for many years now. It’s gonna be great energy, the three of us. It will be fun and celebratory and just making it another great summer. We’re all here and kicking and in the land of the living. We’ll just get out there and make a joyful noise.

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What ‘Queer Eye for the Straight Guy’ can still teach us
Producer David Collins on lasting impact of hit series
It’s hard to imagine where LGBTQ+ television would be without “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy,” the trailblazing reality series that premiered in 2003.
Each episode of this Emmy-winning show saw a group of gays converge on a struggling man — the titular straight guy — and offer nonstop wit while organizing his endlessly messy life. This program about a group of homosexual helpers took the world by storm, furthering the love of gay television begun by shows like “Will and Grace” but bringing it into the growing medium of reality TV. Of course, it wasn’t perfect; “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy” often cast its experts less as multi-faceted queer folks and more as sources of early 2000s gay jokes. But despite these pitfalls, it’s undeniable that the original program explored the realities of being gay in a way audiences had never seen before. It was a monumental piece of LGBTQ+ representation, and its success is largely owed to the man who fought to get this show made: producer David Collins.
Collins spoke with the Blade from his Los Angeles home, where he’s spent the past few years living with his husband and his two daughters. David spoke fondly of his many years in the industry, detailing how it feels to be such a huge part of LGBTQ+ history. He explained, however, that he didn’t initially set out to alter how queer people were seen on television. “I never went out to make gay television,” said the producer. “I went out to tell great stories.”
“I’m a hillbilly from Ohio, and I thought I was going to be an editor,” David laughed, looking back on his career. “I interned at the Cincinnati Film Office, and I showed up to work my very first day, and the film commissioner was like, ‘Get to the airport right now and pick [someone] up. Don’t talk to them.’ Well, I ended up picking up Jodie Foster.” Collins raved about this car ride that changed his life, with the pair becoming friends and Foster pushing him to become a producer who puts their own media out into the world. Eventually, he did just that, and after learning about the wild new genre that was reality TV, he pitched a series to Bravo: “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.”
“I was obsessed with Esquire magazine, and they had five categories: fashion, grooming, interior design, culture, food, and wine. So I gave them each a gay, and the Fab Five were born!” Collins said, describing how viewers quickly fell in love with the concept and earned the program four seasons and an Emmy for Outstanding Reality Program. He spoke about how proud he felt creating a show that centered real gay people, not characters in a story, remembering, “To stand in the middle of Times Square and look up and see this massive billboard with the original Queer Eye guys…it wasn’t even a dream come true, because it wasn’t a dream I had even fathomed.”
With his series, people were watching actual gay men and learning the realities of a queer culture that had always been portrayed as a danger to society. Collins tearfully recounted hearing about queer people using the show as a way to connect with their family, saying, “What I’m most proud of that’s come out of Queer Eye [are] the conversations that that series has allowed to have people around their kitchen tables with little boys in Ohio like me who were scared to death that they were going to burn in hell because their pastor was telling them that they were a sinner.”
Now, for all of its trailblazing, the program wasn’t wholly positive; the show’s focus on the central ‘straight guy’ meant it rarely delved into the lives of its Fab Five. Collins regretted that lack of depth but understood that earlier audiences weren’t accustomed to such a nuanced look into queerness — that would have to wait for the reboot.
When “Queer Eye” came out in 2018, audiences were introduced to not only a new Fab Five, but a whole new format (that didn’t rely on a straight person). Now, the series would assist queer folks and allies alike, spotlighting these individuals as well as the queer experts helping them improve their lives. The show has been applauded for its amazing makeovers, but where it truly stands out is its representation, offering a look into individuals across the country and the struggles — along with the immense joys — of being queer in America today.
Fans were disappointed to hear that “Queer Eye” would be ending after its 10th season, but David stressed that they wouldn’t have to be sad for long. “What I will say to you is this: hang tight,” he teased. “There’s yet another version of ‘Queer Eye’ to come, and we’re working on that now.” In the meantime, Collins is continuing his work with new shows like the “House of Stassi,” a series centered on “Vanderpump Rules’”prolific waitress. He’s excited about these new projects, but emphasized that his heart will always belong to “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy” and all that it continues to do for viewers 19 years after its finale.
“It’s not about your new outfit or your new couch or your new whatever. It’s about your humanity,” said Collins, speaking about the core lesson he hopes people take away from the Queer Eye franchise. “It’s about seeing yourself. It’s about dignity. It’s about how confidence breeds success.”
A valuable message that queer folks can benefit from even more now than they did in 2003. And, while it’s unclear just what lies ahead for this franchise, one thing is for sure: “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy” helped people everywhere understand the power that exists within our queerness. It’s a truth that has impacted countless pieces of LGBTQ+ television today, and it’s one that Collins promises to keep alive through whatever hit show he creates next.
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Jason DePuy on coping with homophobia in ‘Big Brother’ house
First drag queen contestant on CBS show fought to stay positive
One week after Jason DePuy (known as Salina EsTitties on “RuPaul’s Drag Race”) was bullied and eventually evicted from CBS’s “Big Brother” house, the queer drag performer is still emotionally processing his feelings.
During his 24 days in the reality TV competition, DePuy often had a rough time, with fellow cast member Kamuela “Kamu” Kirk making homophobic comments and feeling isolated.
In a conversation with Head of Household Rick Devens, Kirk left viewers upset when he said, “Bro, miss me with the drag stuff. Miss me. I’m still an MMA guy, and I have an image to uphold.”
Former “Big Brother” contestant Frankie Grande called his words ‘homophobic’ and ‘gross.’ Another comment, where Kirk said he wanted to end DePuy’s career, also received strong backlash online.
Now that he is out of the house, DePuy has been shocked and deeply touched by the love from “Big Brother” fans and former contestants. We chatted with DePuy for this Blade exclusive.
“To know that my community was rallying for me outside the house was the most wonderful thing. Seeing how much people were just wanting to shower me with love was incredible. Even my friends, I went to say hi and give them a hug, and they’re like, ‘Uh, uh, come here.’ They had to hold me and let me know America was feeling for me in a way that I had no idea.”
He added: “To see that reality was just overwhelming, and I couldn’t ask for more.”
Known as a messy player in the house, DePuy often had to fight to stay positive and stand up for himself.
“No one was coming to my rescue. In real life, it’s easy to block people, but in the house, I didn’t have that luxury, so I had to find it within myself to learn how to speak up for myself in a way that wasn’t nasty or biting. I didn’t attack anyone personally, which is what I was the most proud of.”
DePuy acknowledged he has had a history of putting his foot in his mouth when it came to certain “Drag Race”moments, being in the public eye, and making a fool of himself. “I’ve learned my lessons; to see how I handled myself in the ‘Big Brother’ house was amazing.”
While DePuy has been sober for 14 and a half years and has a strong spiritual foundation, in the Big Brother house, he often felt like he couldn’t communicate what he was feeling.
“As a queer person, a person of color, a drag queen, I have to be very careful about how I move. I don’t have the luxury or privilege to just act a certain way or say a certain thing. I have to be very careful; I’m representing me. But who I am is a Latino, a person of recovery, a drag queen, a queer person in the community. I know that there’s a lot of pressure that comes with that. I felt it was safer for me to sit there and just breathe than try to do anything crazy.”
He continued: “I couldn’t speak to the personal attack that was happening in the house, because in my mind I was like, ‘no, this is a game, and I have to play it, put that aside.’”
Not only can viewers watch the episodes, but they can also watch the live feeds of what’s happening. Seeing the fans’ social media posts from people who had watched the episodes and the live feeds also contributed to DePuy realizing that his feelings of discomfort were valid.
“To know that I wasn’t delusional in those moments, that others could see what was happening, has been a lot to take in. Fans and friends let me know the comments made went beyond the game…I’m like, ‘Oh, so my instincts were correct.”
One of the most poignant moments on the live feeds occurred when DePuy was crying, alone in his room, and said how he missed his gay community.
“I really missed my friends. I missed my queer community. We’re so colorful. We’re so loud. We’re so vibrant. We speak off the cuff, and we’re very truthful and honest with how we speak, and it’s fun. We have fun lingo.”
DePuy had to censor his expressions in the house. “Because I can say one thing, but it can mean something different to straight people than it does with my queer brothers and sisters. So, there was a sense of code-switching that I had to do. I had to even put aside some of my queerness in a way sometimes to fit in.”
DePuy was thrilled to be the very first drag queen to ever be cast on the show.
“I’m honored to have been chosen. There’s a million drag queens out there, and to know that I was a contender to come in the house and not even be in drag was like a wow for me. I’m over here in Hollywood, running around these streets with a wig and heels just to make a dollar to survive, and I have to rely on drag to do that. And then to be offered this opportunity and be given the privilege to say, ‘hey, you don’t have to put on the wig for you to be valuable here,’ is just insane to me.”
Prior to his shows, DePuy has been hustling for 15 years, flipping burgers and doing drag at night.
“That has been my life these past since I was 17. So it’s been a long journey; the opportunity to do this out of drag is a very big blessing. I’m honored and grateful to be the representation of my community.”
If you missed Jason on “Big Brother: Unlocked,” the episode can be seen on CBS.com. He will be back on the show for the finale.
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Rainbows in Revolt on a mission to make LGBTQ artists’ voices heard
Rainbows in Revolt on a mission to make LGBTQ artists’ voices heard
Last month’s Pride celebration in D.C. was so fun. Walking around my first Capital Pride with a $15 lemonade I was loving the madness and the color. Artists and small businesses battling banks you’ve never heard of collecting your personal information so you can spin a wheel to snag free merch. Great music blaring, people actually smiling and enjoying themselves, the “Great” American State Fair could never!
The Monument Stage was on Pennsylvania Avenue, directly in front of the National Gallery of Art and I can’t think of a better venue to see live music. How does someone get on the lineup for Pride? How do we accelerate the visibility of the most talented voices in our community to perform in places like this?
There is certainly not a talent gap, but there is a visibility gap. Chappell Roan went from playing for two people in a parking lot to owning the main stage at Coachella in one year. Whether it is shadowbanning or bias in AI, algorithms have been shown to suppress queer artists. In a digital age, how can queer people break through and show the world how talented they are?
Allison and Matt of Rainbows in Revolt are on a mission to make openly LGBTQ+ artists’ voices heard. Their goal is to find “musicians whose queerness is central to their identity as an artist,” and accelerate them to a place where they can actually reach fans.
The only time queer events seem to be in the spotlight is June, but this should be year round, according to Allison and Matt. Rainbows in Revolt wants to act as a “nucleus” for different sub-communities, finding common ground in the universal language of music.
Matt and Allison founded Rainbows as a way to make cheaper, higher quality merchandise for queer artists. While Rainbows has already pledged 20% of their profits to the LGBTQ+ community, with 10% to Whitman-Walker Health and 10% to LGBTQ+ organizations in need, this is just the beginning of the work that they do.
Rainbows “does the dirty work” that artists normally struggle to do on their own with limited resources. Interviews, artist profiles, social promotion, playlist discovery, radio outreach, and merch-funded support. This work is normally expensive, time consuming, and requires lots of different skills. Musicians don’t want to be editing clips to post online. Standup comedians don’t want to make graphics for their tour dates. They want to write more. They want to focus on their craft.
In addition to helping artists find their audience, Rainbows has built other digital tools to help queer people connect, including an interactive Safe Space Map for most major cities. It is hard to know which places are truly safe and supportive just from a simple Google search. Attitudes and actions change, and there should be a simple way for queer people to find other places that align with them. The Safe Spaces Maps are all up to date, and are tagged and filterable. Instead of relying on forums and word of mouth, Rainbows has created a centralized way to find authentic community quickly.
I had a chance to talk with Allison and Matt at Pride where Lily Erin, one of their signature artists, was performing on the Monument stage. Lily Erin is a folk singer who is familiar and forging her own path. Her bittersweet sound echoes through Acadia, and her garb mirrors the New England athletes I grew up with. Gorp Core meets streetwear. A graphic tee, hiking shorts, and creamsicle Jordans.
Her debut single, “Bus Stop,” tells a sad story about unconditional love, and the conditions that still seem to come with it. Graduating into lockdown, Erin needed a new way to connect with herself and others. Lily made “Bus Stop” without an intention to share it, but doing so was a liberation. People have been responding to her honesty around queer-ness, family, and the “ghosts which haunt us” even in the daytime.
Rainbows in Revolt has helped Lily Erin go from bars and backyards to The Monument Stage at Pride. This is a meteoric rise, and a testament to both Erin’s talent and the work of Rainbows to promote her. “A little encouragement goes a long way with early artists,” and by “planting a seed” Rainbows is already seeing their artist garden grow. Community is power, and Erin is a perfect example of how effective simple modern techniques of promotion can be.
A next step for Rainbows is putting on shows themselves. On Oct. 3, Rainbows in Revolt will host an Evening with Ray Boltz at the National City Christian Church. Boltz grew up in the Catholic Church and for many years was the soundtrack to many services, youth camps, and church groups. He was celebrated by millions until he came out in 2008. Allison remembers her community “never playing his music again.”
Rainbows in Revolt is helping him to return to the church, and proving that identity does not need to be exclusive. We live in a complicated world with complicated lines being drawn. Boltz proves that these lines don’t exist, and will be breaking down barriers to bring together communities. To Allison, “a trans woman standing next to a straight white man in church is a powerful teacher.”
The Safe Space maps bridge all types of spaces, and one of the unlikely ones is, perhaps, churches. Matt said that “BYU has only nine safe spaces around their campus and seven of them are churches.” Not all churches are anti-gay, and many times they are the only place for people to find community.
Rainbows in Revolt is just getting started bridging gaps and building community.
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