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‘Fire Island’ star Patrick McDonald dishes on housemates

Bartender and island resident is key figure on latest gay reality serial

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Patrick McDonald, third from left, with his housemates on ‘Fire Island.’ (Photo courtesy Logo)

In the age of reality TV, the formula for a reality show has been fine tuned to a science. Logo’s “Fire Island,” executive produced by Mark Consuelos and Kelly Ripa, has the messy drama, alcohol and drunken hookups wrapped up into a cast of six gay men sharing a rental house for the summer on Fire Island Pines.

Khasan is a dancer living in New York City who is in a long-distance relationship with his Los Angeles-based boyfriend, Jason. Khasan isn’t too upset about the situation since he has his Venezuelan best friend, Jorge, to keep his mind occupied. He and Jorge sleep in the same bed, cuddle and do other PDA-couple activities together, but insist they don’t have sex.

Brandon, described as the “crazy little one,” is a 21-year-old who indulges in taking naked photographs for a hobby and is excited to meet guys on Fire Island. Cheyenne is a model with thousands of Instagram followers who starts his Fire Island journey ready to party but finds himself in an unexpected relationship. Justin is a bear with a passion for art. He admits to having body image issues and insists on group activities like family dinners in a motherly display of affection for the rest of the guys.

Enter Patrick, a bartender and Fire Island resident originally from Georgia, with a penchant for walking around with no shirt carrying his little dog, Bodhi. Fueled by alcohol and cameras, fights abound with Patrick frequently in the center. For every gathering, Patrick seems to appear with a new gaggle of gay buddies to introduce to his housemates. While some housemates enjoy meeting new friends, like Brandon who finds himself in a fling with one of Patrick’s guests, Jorge and Cheyenne feel the need for some house rules.

Patrick spoke with the Blade about criticism the show has faced for being a negative portrayal of the gay community, why he always found himself in the middle of drama and what the house was like when the cameras turned off. “Fire Island” airs Thursdays at 8 p.m. on Logo.

WASHINGTON BLADE: What was your motivation for joining the show?

PATRICK McDONALD: A beautiful mansion on the ocean surrounded by a bunch of beautiful boys wasn’t that hard of a sell. Just meeting new people and having a new experience was really the main motivation. Then to know that Kelly (Ripa) and Mark (Consuelos) were behind it, I knew that it would be a quality production.

BLADE: You were the only cast member that lived on Fire Island during all of filming. Everyone else would go back to the city during the week. Did that affect your dynamic with the others?

McDONALD: Yeah, I would say it definitely did to some extent. During the weekends there were times when I would go and have to work sometimes. I don’t think that it affected it in a good or bad way. Just some events I had to miss because I was working out here. The really cool thing about working here is I was working on a lot of the really big parties and events that we went to out here. It’s kind of cool to prep for those things because you know somebody is going to be coming out to the island for the first time and this is going to be their first party out here. You get to be involved with giving them that experience. It’s a really neat perspective to have of the island.

BLADE: You’ve already had your fair share of conflict, especially when it comes to inviting people over to the house. Why were you so adamant about having an open-door policy?

McDONALD: I don’t know what you’re talking about, what conflict? No, I mean, I don’t think it was necessarily that I was adamant about the open-door policy. I was more adamant about not judging anybody before they came into the house. One of my favorite things about Fire Island is that people come out here and let their walls down. You can meet lots of different people that are in different social circles, that you wouldn’t necessarily hang out with in the city. So, I was just really wanting the other guys to get that authentic Fire Island experience and clearly some of them had different opinions on that coming in. I think you’ll see it evolve it throughout the season.

BLADE: During those confrontation scenes was there ever a time you felt people were playing it up for the cameras?

McDONALD: Absolutely not. There were some passionate personalities in there. It took me by surprise, honestly. That first barbecue when Jorge got upset with me, I mean, my first impression of this guy was the same as ya’ll’s, like this guy has a master’s in partying. I thought he would be right there with me. And Cheyenne really too. That’s the funny thing. I thought that Cheyenne and Jorge would be the people that I connected with the most and had a good, fun, wild time with and they ended up being the first two to want to shut the party down.

BLADE: At the time of filming you didn’t realize that your crush Brandon was going away to visit another guy instead of his family. How do you feel about that situation playing out for so many people to see?

McDONALD: That was definitely a surprising moment watching the show. I knew that had happened but I didn’t know that would be included. I don’t think he realized he was being filmed at the time. Honestly, it’s not the most fun thing to have that broadcast out. But it was also a good experience for me to go through that. Everybody gets broken up with or something happens when they’re seeing somebody that doesn’t feel really good. It was a vulnerable moment for me and I feel good about it now.

BLADE: Was there anyone in the cast who had a different personality when the cameras were off?

McDONALD: Everybody is pretty authentic on the show. One of the main reasons me and Cheyenne butt heads is because we’re both really opinionated. I sort of felt like I had seen Cheyenne have these fun parties and we had been having a good time together off camera, and it was confusing to me to see him be so reserved. But at that time, I didn’t know that he had a boyfriend that he was dating so that made a little more sense then. But, at first, I had that feeling a little bit about Cheyenne.

BLADE: What’s your take on Jorge and Khasan’s close relationship?

McDONALD: Girl, it wears me out and I’m not even involved with it. Jorge and Khasan are very, very, very close. They’re like family. It’s an interesting situation. I think that Jason (Khasan’s boyfriend) is a really good sport. I think Jason is the perfect guy for Khasan too because he’s really understanding. They have a great relationship on their own. It would probably be a lot for me if I was trying to date somebody and their best friend was around all the time, hanging all over them. But maybe that’s why I’m single.

BLADE: The show has received some criticism that it portrays the gay community as shallow and vapid with all the partying and hookups. How do you feel about that?

McDONALD: I would say a lot of people like to say, “Oh these guys don’t represent our community.” Well, six gay men are never going to represent the entire gay community. I think we’re all really different and we all bring to the table something diverse. I would say that the people who call it shallow haven’t been watching the show. There’s a lot of really in-depth moments that these guys reveal. A lot of personal, private, painful moments that I think would be really good for the gay community to see. Young, gay kids that are out in the middle of nowhere in some town hearing somebody talk about being suicidal and going through depression and talking that out to another gay friend. I think it will be really important and positive for the community. And you know what? Gay people do party a lot. They do that kind of stuff. I think the depiction of the community is extremely accurate.

BLADE: In a recent episode you introduce your housemates to an older couple who talk about how gay culture has changed. That was a poignant moment.

McDONALD: Absolutely. We have both sides of it. Yes, we go to these events and have a good time. But at the end of the day, cameras or not, we were six, gay men living in a house together all summer. Issues come up. The adversaries that are facing our community are the thread that ties the six of us together. That was such a fun day and a reminder of how this island is a pivotal place in the gay community’s history. It was really neat to spend time with them and hear firsthand how in the ‘70s they were coming here and feeling free to hold their hands. It reminds you not to take that stuff for granted when you’re out here. The show has a lot of that and even more coming up. I’m excited for people to see that.

BLADE: The show was filmed last summer. Are you still in touch with your housemates?

McDONALD: Absolutely, we’re all in a group chat. We talk constantly throughout the day. That’s been the coolest part of this experience. I have five new brothers, really. We’ve become so close and gone through so much together during the show and after the show. There’s definitely some conflicts in those relationships, none of them are perfect. But I’m so glad I met those guys and I know that we’ll be friends for the rest of our lives.

BLADE: How’s Bodhi doing? 

McDONALD: Bodhi is fantastic. He’s currently on a press tour of his own. I think he’s doing “The View” next week.

BLADE: What’s next for you?

McDONALD: Recently, I’ve been writing and working on a country album. You’ll see later in the season I perform some of my original country music. It’s something that was a goal of mine. It just got me really amped up and excited about it. And just gearing up for the summer again, getting back out to the island and seeing what adventures we can go on this summer.

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As Oscars approach, it’s time to embrace ‘KPop Demon Hunters’

If you’ve resisted it, now’s the time to give in

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The KPop Demon Hunters get ready for action. (Image courtesy of Netflix)

If you’re one of the 500 million people who made “KPop Demon Hunters” into the most-watched original Netflix title in the streaming platform’s history, this article isn’t for you.

If, however, you’re one of the millions who skipped the party when the Maggie Kang-created animated musical fantasy debuted last summer, you might be wondering why this particular piece of pop youth culture is riding high in an awards season that seems all but certain to end with it winning an Oscar or two; and if that’s the case, by all means, keep reading.

We get it. If you’re not a young teen (or you don’t have one), it might have escaped your radar. If you don’t like KPop, or the fantasy genre just isn’t your thing, there would be no reason for that title to pique your interest – on the contrary, you would assume it’s just a movie that wasn’t made for you and leave it at that.

It’s now more than half a year later, though, and “KPop Demon Hunters” has yet to fade into pop culture memory, in spite of the “new, now, next” pace with which our social media world keeps scrolling by. It might feel like there’s been a resurgence of interest since the film’s ongoing sweep of major awards in the Best Animated Film and Best Song categories has led it close to Oscar gold, but in reality, the interest never really flagged. Millions of fans were still streaming the soundtrack album on a loop, all along.

It wasn’t just the music that they embraced, though that was definitely a big factor – after all, the film’s signature song, “Golden,” has now landed a Grammy to display alongside all of its film industry accolades. But Kang’s anime-influenced urban fantasy taps into something more substantial than the catchiness of its songs; through the filter of her experience as a South Korean immigrant growing up in Canada, she draws on the traditions and mythology of her native culture while blending them seamlessly into an infectiously contemporary and decidedly Western-flavored “girl power” adventure about an internationally popular KPop girl band – Huntrix, made up of lead singer Rumi (Arden Cho), lead dancer Mira (May Hong), and rapper/lyricist Zoey (Ji-young Yoo) – who also happen to be warriors, charged with protecting humankind from the influence of Gwi-Ma (Lee Byung-hun), king of the demon world, which is kept from infiltrating our own by the power of their music and their voices. Oh, and also by their ability to kick demon ass.

In an effort to defeat the girls at their own game, Gwi-Ma sends a demonic boy band led by handsome human-turned-demon Jinu (Ahn Hyo-seop) to steal their fans, creating a rivalry that (naturally) becomes complicated by the spark that ignites between Rumi and Jinu, and that forces Rumi to confront the half-demon heritage she has managed to keep secret – even from her bandmates – but now threatens to destroy Huntrix from within, just when their powers are needed most.

It’s a bubble-gum flavored fever-dream of an experience, for the most part, which never takes itself too seriously. Loaded with outrageous kid-friendly humor and pop culture parody, it might almost feel as if it were making fun of itself if not for the obvious sincerity it brings to its celebration of all things K-Pop, and the tangible weight it brings along for the ride through its central conflict – which is ultimately not between the human and demon worlds but between the long-held prejudices of the past and the promise of a future without them.

That’s the hook that has given “KPop Demon Hunters” such a wide-ranging and diverse collection of fans, and that makes it feel like a well-timed message to the real world of the here and now. In her struggle to come to terms with her part-demon nature – or rather, the shame and stigma she feels because of it – Rumi becomes a point of connection for any viewer who has known what it’s like to hide their full selves or risk judgment (or worse) from a world that has been taught to hate them for their differences, and maybe what it’s like to be taught to hate themselves for their differences, too.

For obvious reasons, that focus adds a strong layer of personal relevance for queer audiences; indeed, Kane has said she wanted the film to mirror a “coming out” story, drawing on parallels not just with the LGBTQ community, but with people marginalized through race, gender, trauma, neurodivergence – anything that can lead people to feel like an “other” through cultural prejudices and force them to deal with the pressure of hiding an essential part of their identity in order to blend in with the “normal” community. It plays like a direct message to all who have felt “demonized” for something that’s part of their nature, something over which they have no choice and no control, and it positions that deeply personal struggle as the key to saving the world.

Of course, “KPop Demon Hunters” doesn’t lean so hard into its pro-diversity messaging that it skimps on the action, fun, and fantasy that is always going to be the real reason for experiencing a genre film where action, fun, and fantasy are the whole point in the first place. You don’t have to feel like an “other” to enjoy the ride, or even to get the message – indeed, while it’s nice to feel “seen,” it’s arguably much more satisfying to know that the rest of the world might be learning how to “see” you, too, and by the time it reaches its fittingly epic finale, Kane’s movie (which she co-directed with Chris Appelhans, and co-wrote with Appelhans, Danya Jimenez, and Hannah McMechan) has firmly made its point that, in a community threatened by hatred over perceived differences, the real enemy is our hate – NOT our differences.

Sure, there are plenty of other reasons to enjoy it; visually, it’s an imaginative treat, building an immersive world that overlays an ancient mythic cosmology onto a recognizably contemporary setting to create a kind of whimsical “metaverse” that feels almost more real than reality (the hallmark of great mythmaking, really) and still allows for “Looney Toons” style cartoon slapstick, intricately choreographed dance and battle sequences that defy the laws of physics, slick satirical commentary on the juggernaut of pop music and the publicity machine that drives it, and plenty of glittery K-Pop earworms that will take you back to the thrill of being a hormonal 13-year-old on a sugar high. But what makes it stand out above so many other similar generic offerings is its unapologetic celebration of the idea that our strength is in our differences, and its open invitation to shed the shame and bring your differences into the light,

So, yes, you might think “KPop Demon Hunters” would be a movie that’s exactly what it sounds like it will be – and you’d be right – but it’s also much, much more. If you’ve resisted it, now’s the time to give in.

At the very least, it will give you something else to root for on Oscar night.

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50 years later, it’s still worth a return trip to ‘Grey Gardens’

Documentary remains entertaining despite its darkness

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The two Edies of ‘Grey Gardens.’ (Photo courtesy of Criterion)

If we were forced to declare why “Grey Gardens” became a cult classic among gay men, it would be all the juicy quotes that have become part of the queer lexicon.

Celebrating the 50th anniversary of its theatrical release this month, the landmark documentary profiles two eccentrics: Edith Ewing Bouvier Beale and her daughter, Edith Bouvier Beale (known as “Big” and “Little” Edie, respectively), the aunt and cousin of former first lady Jaqueline Kennedy Onassis and socialite Lee Radziwell. Once moving within an elite circle of American aristocrats, they had fallen into poverty and were living in isolation at their run-down estate (the Grey Gardens of the title) in East Hampton, Long Island; they re-entered the public eye in 1972 after local authorities threatened eviction and demolition of their mansion over health code violations, prompting their famous relatives to swoop in and pay for the necessary repairs to avoid further family scandal. 

At the time, Radziwell had enlisted filmmaking brothers David and Albert Maysles to take footage for a later-abandoned project of her own, bringing them along when she went to put in an appearance at the Grey Gardens clean-up efforts. It was their first encounter with the Beales; the second came two years later, when they returned with their cameras (but without Radziwell) and proceeded to make documentary history, turning the two Edies into unlikely cultural icons in the process.

On paper, it reads like something painful: two embittered former socialites, a mother and daughter living among a legion of cats and raccoons in the literal ruins of their former life, where they dwell on old memories, rehash old conflicts, and take out their resentments on each other, attempting to keep up appearances while surviving on a diet that may or may not include cat food. Truthfully, it is sometimes difficult to watch, which is why it’s easier to approach from surface level, focusing on the “wacky” eccentricities and seeing the Beales as objects for ridicule. 

Yet to do so is to miss the true brilliance of a movie that is irresistible, unforgettable, and fascinating to the point of being hypnotic, and that’s because of the Beales themselves, who are far too richly human to be dismissed on the basis of conventional judgments.

First is Little Edie, in her endless array of headscarves (to cover her hair loss from alopecia) and her ever-changing wardrobe of DIY “revolutionary costumes,” a one-time model and might-have-been showgirl who is obviously thrilled at having an audience and rises giddily to the occasion like a pro. Flamboyant, candid, and smarter than we think, she’s also fearlessly vulnerable; she gives us access to an emotional landscape shaped by the heartbreaks of a past that’s gradually revealed as the movie goes on, and it’s her ability to pull herself together and come back fighting that wins us over. By the time she launches into her monologue about being a “S-T-A-U-N-C-H” woman, we have no doubt that it’s true.

Then there’s Big Edie, who comes across as an odd mix of imperious dowager and down-to-earth grandma. She gets her own chance to shine for the camera, especially in the scenes where she reminisces about her early days as a “successful” amateur vocalist, singing along to records of songs she used to perform as glimpses emerge of the beauty and talent she commanded in her prime. She’s more than capable of taking on her daughter in their endless squabbles, and savvy enough to score serious points in the conflict, like stirring up jealousy with her attentions to beefy young handyman Jerry – whom the younger Edie has dubbed “the Marble Faun” – when he comes around to share a feast of boiled corn-on-the-cob with them. “Jerry likes the way I do my corn,” she deadpans to the camera, even though we know it’s meant for Little Edie.

It’s not just that their eccentricities verge on camp; that’s certainly an undeniable part of the appeal, but it falls away quickly as you begin to recognize that even if these women are putting on a show for the camera, they’re still being completely themselves – and they are spectacular.

Yes, their verbal sparring is often shrill and palpably toxic – in particular, Big Edie has no qualms about belittling and shaming her daughter in an obviously calculated effort to undermine her self-esteem and discourage her from making good on her repeated threats to leave Grey Gardens. We know she is acting from fear of abandonment, but it’s cruel, all the same. 

These are the moments that disturb us more than any of the dereliction we see in their physical existence; fed by nostalgia and forged in a deep codependence that neither wants to acknowledge, their dynamic reflects years of social isolation that has made them into living ghosts, going through the habitual motions of a long-lost life, ruminating on ancient resentments, and mulling endlessly over memories of the things that led them to their outcast state. As Little Edie says early on, “It’s very difficult to keep the line between the past and the present. Do you know what I mean?”

That pithy observation, spoken conspiratorially to the Maysles’ camera, sets the tone for the entirety of “Grey Gardens,” perhaps even suggesting an appropriate point of meditation through which to contemplate everything that follows. It’s a prime example of the quotability that has helped this odd little movie endure as a fixture in queer culture; for many LGBTQ people, both Edies – born headstrong, ambitious, and independent into a social strata that only wanted its women to be well-behaved – became touchstones of frustrated longing, of living out one’s own fabulousness in isolated secrecy. Add to that shared inner experience Little Edie’s knack for turning scraps into kitschy fashion (and the goofy-but-joyous flag dance she performs as a sort of climactic topper near the end), and it should be obvious why the Maysles Brothers’ little project still resonates with the community five decades later.

Indeed, watching it in today’s cultural climate, it strikes chords that resonate through an even wider spectrum, touching on feminist themes through these two “problematic” women who have been effectively banished for refusing to fit into a mold, and on the larger issue of social and economic inequality that keeps them trapped, ultimately turning them against each other in their powerlessness.

With that in mind, it’s clear these women were never filmed to be objects of ridicule. They’re survivors in a world in which even their unimaginably wealthy relatives would rather look away, offering a bare minimum of help only when their plight becomes a matter of public family embarrassment, and the resilience they show in the face of tremendous adversity makes them worthy of celebration, instead.

That’s why “Grey Gardens” still hits close to home, why it entertains despite its darkness, and why we remember it as something bittersweet but beautiful. By the end of it, we recognize that the two Edies could be any of us, which means they are ALL of us – and if they can face their challenges with that much “revolutionary” spirit, then maybe we can be “staunch” against our adversities, too.

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‘Pillion’ director on bikers, BDSM, and importance of being seen

‘We put a lot of thought and effort into how we depicted the community’

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Alexander Skarsgård and Harry Melling star in ‘Pillion.’

One of the highlights of last week’s Mid-Atlantic Leather Weekend came not on the dance floor, but in a movie theater. In a new partnership, the independent film studio A24 brought its leather-clad new film “Pillion” to D.C. for special showings for the MAL crowd.

“Pillion,” a term for the motorcycle passenger seated behind the driver, delves into the complicated relationship between an introverted, quiet Londoner Colin (Harry Melling) who embarks on a journey finding himself while entering into a sub relationship with a new Dom named Ray (Alexander Skarsgård) he meets during Christmas. 

It’s writer-director Harry Lighton’s feature-length debut, sharing Skarsgård’s impossibly toned physique with both Colin and audiences, and offering an eye into the BDSM community by an LGBTQ director for the general public. This from a studio that also just released a movie about ping-pong starring Timothée Chalamet.  

The Washington Blade was able to catch a screening at Regal Gallery Place on Jan. 18, hosted by MAL and Gary Wasdin, executive director, Leather Archives & Museum. The Blade also had a chance to interview Lighton about the experience.

Blade: How did you get involved in this film, especially as this is your directorial debut?

Lighton: I was sent “Box Hill,” the novel on which “Pillion” is based, by Eva Yates (the head of film at the BBC). I’d spent years working on a sumo film set in Japan, and then suddenly that became impossible due to the pandemic so I was miserable. And then I read this book that I found bracing, funny, moving. All the good things. 

Blade: Are you involved with the leather community? Did you draw on any personal experiences or make connections with the community? 

Lighton: I’m involved in the wrestling scene but not the leather community. So I spent lots of time with people who are [in the community] during the writing process, and then ended up casting a bunch of them as bikers and pillions in the film. They were incredibly generous to myself, Harry, and Alex with their knowledge and experiences. We have them to thank for lending credibility to the world on screen.

Blade:  What kind of reception have you received at film festivals and with the LGBTQ community? Was it what you imagined?

Lighton: Obviously not everyone’s going to like the film — for some people it’ll be too explicit, for some not explicit enough; some people will feel seen, some won’t. But the general reaction’s been extremely positive so far. If I’m honest I thought it would divide opinion more.   

Blade: How was it working with the actors?

Lighton:  I had a lot of respect for both of them going in, and wondered if that might make me a bit too deferential, a bit too Colin-coded. But besides being extremely talented, they’re both lovely. And committed. And fun! With my shorts I always felt a bit out of my depth working with actors, but here I discovered a real love for it.  

Blade: Turning to the plot, the parents are pretty supportive, especially Colin’s dad. How did you decide to draw his parents? What does it mean to show parents with nuanced viewpoints?

Lighton:  I wanted to reverse the typical parent-child dynamic in queer film, where parents go from rejecting to accepting their queer kid. We meet Colin’s parents actively pushing him toward a gay relationship. But when the relationship he lands on doesn’t meet her definition of healthy, his mum withdraws her acceptance. I wanted to ask: Are they projecting their romantic model onto their son, or do they have a legitimate concern for his wellbeing with Ray?

Blade: How did you decide to place the setting?

Lighton: Practically, we needed somewhere within reach of London. But I liked the idea that Colin, who lives life on the periphery, grew up on the edge of the capital. One of our producers, Lee Groombridge, grew up in and around Bromley and showed me all the spots. I loved the atmosphere on the high street, the markets, and the contrast between the high street and the idyllic park. And I thought it would be a funny place for Alexander Skarsgård to have settled.

Blade: What do you hope audiences take away from the film? 

Lighton: There’s no one message. Different people will take different things from it. Personally, Colin inspires me to jump off cliffs, to push beyond my comfort zone because that’s where life begins. From Ray I get the courage to be ugly, to fly in the face of social convention if it doesn’t make you happy or it’s not built for you. 

Blade: Talk about the soundtrack — especially the Tiffany “I Think We’re Alone Now” song.

Lighton: Skarsgård’s Ray has the surface masc-ness that comes with looking like a Viking. I wanted to combine that with details that indicate he’s been a part of gay culture and “I Think We’re Alone Now” is nothing if not a camp classic.  

Blade: What does it mean to you to show the film at MAL?

Lighton: When I told the bikers from the film I was coming to MAL they practically wet themselves with excitement. We put a lot of thought and effort into how we depicted the community in the film and there’s so much variety, no two Masters or subs are the same, but seeing a theater full of men in leather laugh, cry, and clap for the film meant the world.

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