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Billy Gilman plans weekend Bethesda show

Singer overcomes voice changes, industry norms to rebirth career

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Billy Gilman has big plans to release new music he’s psyched about. (Photo courtesy Bethesda Blues and Jazz)

Billy Gilman
 
Sunday, Oct. 29
 
7:30 p.m.
 
Bethesda Blues and Jazz Supper Club
 
7119 Wisconsin Ave., Bethesda, Md.
 
$45-75

Some people fight for years to break into the music industry but Billy Gilman became a star at the early age of 11. His debut single “One Voice” cracked the Billboard Hot 100 and led to a Grammy nomination and plenty of touring.

Gilman’s career started with a bang but began to fizzle when he suddenly seemed to disappear from the music scene. He reemerged with a coming-out video on YouTube that went viral in 2014.

Then in 2016 Gilman auditioned for “The Voice” by singing “When We Were Young” by Adele. He joined Team Adam Levine and swept the competition to become season 11 runner-up. Now Gilman is giving his music career a second go around but says this time it’s going to be more authentically him. Calling from his office desk in his home state of Rhode Island, the now-29-year-old singer spoke with the Washington Blade about his 10-year hiatus, coming out as a country star and if his friendship with Levine was just for the cameras.

WASHINGTON BLADE: What was it like achieving success so early? Did you realize what a big deal it was?

BILLY GILMAN: No. I knew that it was great. But all I was really concerned about was getting on a stage and just having fun. That was my main love. It was almost like a game. It didn’t feel like a job. It didn’t feel like a pressure like, “Oh, we’ve got to get to number one. We’ve got to sell this many units this week.” The pressure is now. Now that I know what’s going on.

BLADE: What were you doing in the 10-year break between your self-titled album in 2006 and your “The Voice” audition in 2016?

GILMAN: My voice really, I don’t know if it was from all the stress it was under traveling for so many years as a kid or whatever, but when my voice changed it was a very bad time. It took a long time for it to come back where I knew I could hold a show on my own and not have to worry, “Oh, is it just going to go and leave me?” It would stay for a song and then it would just vanish, no sound coming out. We would go to the doctor but there really wasn’t any damage, it was just the vocal chords figuring out what they wanted to do. It took two-and-a-half years for me to fully get back out on a stage and be able to hold a show. But I lived in Nashville through all that time co-writing. I raised $2.5 million for the Muscular Dystrophy Association.

So, I was very busy I just really wasn’t doing my thing. I had to find other ways to work and be out in the public eye and not letting that flame die, hoping that my voice would come back. And it did and that began the process of relearning it. You can’t hit those extravagant high notes that you used to hit. You have newer, lower notes.

When you’re told what to act like, what to sound like, how to dress that’s just your mentality. It wasn’t until I started to song write that I realized who I was, and what I loved and what I didn’t like. I knew that Nashville just wasn’t going to buy into it. I was trying to fit the formula when I knew I wasn’t going to fit the formula anymore. But I stayed and cowrote songs for publishing companies, did recordings and all that for five or six years. I knew I wanted to change gears and let my voice do what it was put on earth to do knowing that it can again, which is big ballads. I would do my little country stuff on stage at 12 years old and then I would literally sign autographs, do my duties, get on the bus and just belt out Celine Dion and Michael Bolton. That was just where my voice really fit. But the gimmick was working at 12 years old, a kid singing country music.

So when “The Voice” called, and they had been calling for a few years and I had said, “No, I want to do it on my own.” But usually, if an opportunity comes up and goes away and you ignore it, well that’s your own mistake. But this one kept coming. They just kept persisting. So I said, “You know what if it keeps coming up so strongly in my reality, it’s for a reason.” So I finally gave in and auditioned and the journey really revved up.

BLADE: Did you feel like your prior experience gave you an advantage on “The Voice”? 

GILMAN: No. The only thing that helped me was I knew how to hold notes and get around things if I was sick. That helped. But you’re standing toe to toe not knowing what the hell is going on just as much as the person that came from selling cars or behind a desk. There really was no advantage and they didn’t treat me any different. To the onlooker, it looks like it maybe played a role but it really doesn’t. They’re all about quality in all forms. Everyone is the same. That was really great because I was a little timid to talk to anyone in the first couple of weeks in the process. I didn’t know if the other contestants would be upset if they found out or if anyone knew.

So, I didn’t want to cause waves because you never know how people are gonna react. But we really started to get friendly and became friends and family that hopefully will forever be friends and family. The winner of my season had a prior record deal and we didn’t know that. Everyone has a history more often than not. There’s more entertainers that were co-writers on big hits, background singers for someone really famous. Ninety percent of them knew what they were doing or had a name of their own in whatever way prior to the show.

BLADE: Your coach was Adam Levine. Do you still keep in touch with him?

GILMAN: I do. We talk. The ones I talk to are him and Miley (Cyrus) mostly. He’s great. He was very black and white. I like truth and I don’t like to be doted or coddled. It was neat to see someone really get invested in the situation and not just when the cameras are on. He’s awesome.

BLADE: Country music isn’t known for out artists in the same way a genre like pop is. Were you afraid of losing fans coming out as a country singer?

GILMAN: If I’m going to lose fans like that then I don’t care. I’ll go sing on a cruise ship. I will always be a singer. If I was losing fans because I was sending a message that really was not a good one or I went into rap or something that has more of a negative tone I could see that as a hurt. But me being happy and spreading peace and helping some other person possibly, if I lose fans over that then it was meant to happen. At first I told my family and then I slowly started to tell my team. But then I figured it’s no one else’s business. No one else deserves to know. I’m just a singer. You put my record on and you watch my video on YouTube and then you go about your life. You don’t need to know any more about me. Country music especially isn’t the case like that. It’s very family oriented and they want to know their artists. So they advised me to tell them because it was a struggle for me to be successful again.

And when I finally came out to my team they said, “You have no idea the stigma that’s around your name. It’s a horrible thing but that’s the reality of this town.” And I went, “That’s really disgusting. I have a hit song right here. And you’re not going to play it just because of my personal lifestyle?” That’s just the way it works. It’s actually mind boggling. But it is what it is. A high-profile magazine wanted a cover story and I said no because it looks like I’m trying to sell it or find success in something so intense. My team wasn’t too thrilled. But it’s not a publicity stunt. It’s just telling people the situation.

So I opted to do it on YouTube. Because if it were to go viral and do amazing that’s on its own, I didn’t push it. The amount of press that I got from it was great. But the amount of letters, emails that I got from kids in middle America saying, “I was kicked out my home, what do I do? But now I don’t feel alone and I feel like I have a voice to help me through this.” The positive outweighed the negative by almost a 100 percent. People are gonna say what they’re gonna say but they’re gonna do that anyway.

But musically, I was like holy shit where am I going? But I am a singer. I don’t remember a time when I wasn’t. So I knew in my gut that there was no other way for me. I had to trust that it would be OK. Sometimes that’s all you have to go by.

BLADE: Being both gay and a country singer, do you feel an obligation to speak out on events like the Pulse nightclub shooting and the Las Vegas shooting?

GILMAN: The way I feel is every voice is important at certain times. I think that there’s a place and time for my ranting. I could be like one of these artists that get on Twitter every five minutes. But what is that really helping? If you live your truth and you live to help the cause in your everyday life that stands alone as well. I do plenty of events and speak on behalf of GLAAD and the LGBTQ community. It’s just about living your life and not backing down. That’s a win, that’s a stance. Not cowering and being proud of who you are no matter what you are.

BLADE: What projects are you working on? Any new music?

GILMAN: I’m working on some really fun stuff. When I stepped out on “The Voice” stage I told my team I really have to do me this time. That’s such a new kid term, “Do you.” When you say it, it sounds really gross but it’s true. I really had to be who I knew I was and who I created alone. I would go, “Damn it, I wish people would hear this.” But I just wasn’t ready yet to show that part of me. So when “The Voice” came I said, “I gotta do me I think I’m gonna do an Adele song as my audition song” and everyone said, “What?” And I said, “Yeah, that’s where I see myself.” I said this is the biggest platform to see if it will work because if people don’t like it they won’t vote, they won’t download.

Thankfully, America bought into it. It enabled a lot of confidence in that new lane. We just wrapped mixing some songs that will be released. We’re meeting with record labels so I don’t know how long it will take. I could always release it myself if that doesn’t work. But right now they’re fresh off the studio floor. I don’t know when it will come out but it is done. Both regular music and Christmas music. It’s great to have this music that I’ve never had before. It can contend with everyone else and I’ve never had that before.

BLADE: What can people expect from your show?

GILMAN: This one is a little different. It’s a very up close and personal night of songs. My old stuff that people remember, some new stuff. I learned from another very successful artist, “You can do a million original songs but just expect people looking for the popcorn, the beer or the bathroom.” If they don’t know the song you gotta throw in some stuff that they know. So I threw in this little segment, because it’s so popular on TV and YouTube, called Carpool Karaoke. It’s really been working and it’s fun. It’s a variety show of songs that I really love but on the intimate side which is always a fun thing every once in awhile.

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Underdog glorious: a personal remembrance of Jill Sobule

Talented singer, songwriter died in house fire on May 1

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Writer Gregg Shapiro with Jill Sobule in 2000. (Photo courtesy Shapiro)

I’ve always prided myself on being the kind of music consumer who purchased music on impulse. When I stumbled across “Things Here Are Different,” Jill Sobule’s 1990 MCA Records debut album on vinyl in a favorite Chicago record store, I bought it without knowing anything about her. This was at a time when we didn’t have our phones in our pockets to search for information about the artist on the internet. The LP stayed in my collection until, as vinyl was falling out of fashion, I replaced it with a CD a few years later.

Early in my career as an entertainment journalist, I received a promo copy of Jill’s eponymous 1995 Atlantic Records album. That year, Atlantic Records was one of the labels at the forefront of signing and heavily promoting queer artists, including Melissa Ferrick and Extra Fancy, and its roster included the self-titled album by Jill. It was a smart move, as the single “I Kissed A Girl” became a hit on radio and its accompanying video (featuring Fabio!) was in heavy rotation on MTV (when they still played videos).

Unfortunately for Jill, she was a victim of record label missteps. When 1997’s wonderful “Happy Town” failed to repeat the success, Atlantic dumped her. That was Atlantic’s loss, because her next album, the superb “Pink Pearl” contained “Heroes” and “Mexican Wrestler,” two of her most beloved songs. Sadly, Beyond Music, the label that released that album ceased to exist after just a few years. To her credit, the savvy Jill had also started independently releasing music (2004’s “The Folk Years”). That was a smart move because her next major-label release, the brilliant “Underdog Victorious” on Artemis Records, met a similar fate when that label folded.

With her 2009 album “California Years,” Jill launched her own indie label, Pinko Records, on which she would release two more outstanding full-length discs, 2014’s “Dottie’s Charms” (on which she collaborated with some of her favorite writers, including David Hadju, Rick Moody, Mary Jo Salter, and Jonathan Lethem), and 2018’s stunning “Nostalgia Kills.” Jill’s cover of the late Warren Zevon’s “Don’t Let Us Get Sick” on “Nostalgia Kills” was particularly poignant as she had toured with him as an opening act.

Jill was a road warrior, constantly on tour, and her live shows were something to behold. My first interview with Jill took place at the Double Door in Chicago in early August of 1995, when she was the opening act for legendary punk band X. She had thrown her back out the previous day and was diagnosed with a herniated disc. To be comfortable, she was lying down on a fabulous-‘50s sofa. “I feel like I’m at my shrink’s,” she said to me, “Do you want me to talk about my mother?”

That sense of humor, which permeated and enriched her music, was one of many reasons to love Jill. I was privileged to interview her for seven of her albums. Everything you would want to know about her was right there in her honest lyrics, in which she balanced her distinctive brand of humor with serious subject matter. Drawing on her life experiences in songs such as “Bitter,” “Underachiever,” “One of These Days,” “Freshman,” “Jetpack,” “Nothing To Prove,” “Forbidden Thoughts of Youth,” “Island of Lost Things,” “Where Do I Begin,” “Almost Great,” and “Big Shoes,” made her songs as personal as they were universal, elicited genuine affection and concern from her devoted fans.

While she was a consummate songwriter, Jill also felt equally comfortable covering songs made famous by others, including “Just A Little Lovin’” (on the 2000 Dusty Springfield tribute album “Forever Dusty”) and “Stoned Soul Picnic” (from the 1997 Laura Nyro tribute album “Time and Love”). Jill also didn’t shy away from political subject matter in her music with “Resistance Song,” “Soldiers of Christ,” “Attic,” “Heroes,” “Under the Disco Ball,” and the incredible “America Back” as prime examples.

Here’s something else worth mentioning about Jill. She was known for collaboration skills. As a songwriter, she maintained a multi-year creative partnership with Robin Eaton (“I Kissed A Girl” and many others), as well as Richard Barone, the gay frontman of the renowned band The Bongos. Jill’s history with Barone includes performing together at a queer Octoberfest event in Chicago in 1996. Writer and comedian Julie Sweeney, of “SNL” and “Work in Progress” fame was another Chicago collaborator with Sobule (Sweeney lives in a Chicago suburb), where they frequently performed their delightful “The Jill and Julia Show.” John Doe, of the aforementioned band X, also collaborated with Jill in the studio (“Tomorrow Is Breaking” from “Nostalgia Kills”), as well as in live performances.

On a very personal note, in 2019, when I was in the process of arranging a reading at the fabulous NYC gay bookstore Bureau of General Services – Queer Division, I reached out to Jill and asked her if she would like to be on the bill with me. We alternated performing; I would read a couple of poems, and Jill would sing a couple of songs. She even set one of my poems to music, on the spot.

Jill had an abundance of talent, and when she turned her attention to musical theater, it paid off in a big way. Her stage musical “F*ck 7th Grade,” a theatrical piece that seemed like the next logical step in her career, had its premiere at Pittsburgh’s City Theatre in the fall of 2020, during the height of the pandemic. The unique staging (an outdoor drive-in stage at which audience members watched from their cars) was truly inspired. “F*ck 7th Grade” went on to become a New York Times Critic’s pick, as well as earning a Drama Desk nomination.

In honor of the 30th anniversary of Jill’s eponymous 1995 album, reissue label Rhino Records is re-releasing it on red vinyl. Jill and I had been emailing each other to arrange a time for an interview. We even had a date on the books for the third week of May.

When she died in a house fire in Minnesota on May 1 at age 66, Jill received mentions on network and cable news shows. She was showered with attention from major news outlets, including obits in the New York Times and Rolling Stone (but not Pitchfork, who couldn’t be bothered to review her music when she was alive). Is it wrong to think that if she’d gotten this much attention when she was alive she could have been as big as Taylor Swift? I don’t think so.

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Tom Goss returns with ‘Bear Friends Furever Tour’

Out singer/songwriter to perform at Red Bear Brewing Co.

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Singer Tom Goss is back. (Photo by Dusti Cunningham)

Singer Tom Goss will bring his “Bear Friends Furever Tour” to D.C. on Sunday, June 8 at 8 p.m. at Red Bear Brewing Co. 

Among the songs he will perform will be “Bear Soup,” the fourth installment in his beloved bear song anthology series. Following fan favorites like “Bears,” “Round in All the Right Places,” and “Nerdy Bear,” this high-energy, bass-thumping banger celebrates body positivity, joyful indulgence, and the vibrant spirit of the bear subculture.

For more details, visit Tom Goss’s website.

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Kylie brings ‘Tension’ tour to D.C.

Performance on Tuesday at Capital One Arena

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Kylie Minogue visits D.C. on Tuesday.

Aussie pop icon Kylie Minogue brings her acclaimed “Tension” world tour to D.C. next Tuesday at 7:30 p.m. at the Capital One Arena. Tickets are still available at Ticketmaster.

The show features songs spanning her long career, from 1987 debut single, “The Loco-Motion,” to “Padam, Padam” from her album, “Tension.”

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