January 21, 2010 at 8:36 am EST | by Tyrone Ford
Kathy Griffin on her ‘Official Book,’ CNN and more

Of all the adjectives used to describe Kathy Griffin, demure is assuredly not on the list.

As a two time Emmy recipient, Grammy nominee and host of her own Bravo reality show, “Kathy Griffin: My Life on the D-List,” Griffin has decidedly redefined what it truly means to be “A-List.” And she’s bringing her talent this week to Washington, D.C., for two shows at DAR Constitution Hall and a signing of her tell-all memoir, “Official Book Club Selection” — so named because Griffin wants Oprah to include the volume in her renowned book club.

Griffin spoke briefly with DC Agenda to answer questions about her book, roasting Joan Rivers and dropping the ball and F-bomb on CNN.

DC Agenda: While in D.C., there will be a stop at the Borders Books located at 1801 K St., N.W., for a signing of your book, “Official Book Club Selection,” and two performances at DAR Constitution Hall. Many of your faithful gays will buy your book and commit it to memory. Why should everyone else?

Kathy Griffin: I’ve gotten e-mails from people saying they were reading it while on an airplane and laughing out loud, so everyone needs a laugh. Also, I deliver the real shit, you know? I talk about the pedophile brother and the divorce and the husband and the money. Dealing with growing up as an outsider — which I think is my connection with the gay community. I think the reason that I connect with all the gay community is because we’re in the struggle together. I’ve had gay friends as long as I can remember. There’s something about having to work harder, having to jump higher, and a lot of the book is about doing that.

Agenda: You have said your book will make readers laugh but also offend them a little bit — that “sometimes it’s good to be offended”. How do you feel people can people learn from being offended?

Griffin: Well it’s important to offend people. I tried to offend people at least once a chapter. Really, though, a lot of change starts with someone making an offensive comment. People ask me a lot if there are any topics that are off the table, and when I started out it was no cancer and no AIDS as a rule. That was until I started performing for AIDS patients in hospitals and found the patients had the sickest jokes you’ve ever heard in your life about AIDS. It was because they were going through it, so they had to laugh at it. That’s when I realized nothing should really be off the table because funny is funny.

Agenda: This past July you were the Roast Master for Comedy Central’s roast of Joan Rivers. How did it feel to hold that honor for such an icon?

Griffin: Surprisingly, she’s still talking to me. It really was an honor to roast Joan and it’s an honor every time I’m in her presence. Joan is just a pistol and one of the sweetest people you’ll ever meet. I have conversations with people like Joan Rivers, Bill Maher and Howard Stern and people like that who are supposedly mean and they turn out to be some of the nicest people you’d want to know. That’s one thing I let guide me because I’ve had people like Quentin Tarantino say, “Don’t let someone stop you from saying something funny because it’s offensive,” because it’s so subjective and you just have to go with what you think is funny. That’s what I really admire about the gay community, because you guys are so great at mobilizing and coming together when the issues are really important and getting the message out there.

Agenda: During CNN’s New Year’s Eve broadcast with Anderson Cooper as your co-host, you dropped the F-bomb on live TV. An initial report by Rob Shuter at Popeater, linked to by Huffington Post, claimed CNN dubbed you an “embarrassment to the network” and that you would “not be getting a 2011 invite.” But now in a statement issued to the Huffington Post, CNN has responded that “Stories about Kathy Griffin being banned from CNN are incorrect; no decisions have been made regarding next year’s show.” The country would hate to see Anderson Cooper dropping the ball by himself, so what’s really going on?

Griffin: CNN absolutely did not ban me and did not fire me. When that statement came out, Anderson texted me immediately and said he heard there was an internet rumor that he was upset with me and that it wasn’t true. Now regarding next year, the truth is no network makes a decision about New Year’s this early in the year and they can obviously do whatever they want. They can hire my mom next year for all I know. They did let me know, though, that I’m definitely not banned. Typically, they don’t hire me for that gig until November, so even if I had a contract, they can fire anyone at any time.

Agenda: Speaking of Anderson Cooper, Michael Musto from the Village Voice recently reported seeing Cooper dining at the Bourgeois Pig in New York with a man recognized as a bartender from the East Village gay bar Eastern Bloc. With allegations of Cooper’s sexual orientation in constant flux, did CNN prohibit you from any sexuality jokes in regards to Cooper?

Griffin: First off, I just think Anderson Cooper is the hottest thing. It doesn’t matter who he is standing next to. What’s funny is I got a lot of ink about the F-bomb and yet my favorite joke of the night was when I asked Anderson if, because he was so handsome, does he ever stand in front of a mirror naked pleasuring himself. CNN had no problem with that, which I thought may have been too far, but you know. Anderson has this great line where he says, “I don’t want to be the news, I want to report the news.” And so that’s why, even though I’m the biggest mouth in the world, I actually don’t talk about his personal life, because you have to keep in mind he goes into third world countries where it’s a very different culture, so, you know.

  • Great article and fantastic questions. I am definitely looking forward to seeing her show on Saturday.

  • Short but very relevant and interesting interview! All the world should worship Kathy as a deity.

  • Great article and excellent selection in questions. Kathy always interests me. She has turned what many would consider a curse “Not making the so called “A” list” into one of the hottest celebs on the planet.

    I really appreciate the question on telling jokes in regards to AIDS or Cancer. Makes a lot of sense Kathy, and for those who maybe didn’t understand that type of humor, this will help break down those social taboos.


  • Clay Aiken is a UNICEF ambassador who travels to third world countries like Uganda, Somalia and Afghanistan where his gayness puts his life at risk. He, no doubt wasn’t in a hurry to come out in part for that reason. Why would Kathy think it was alright to put Clay’s life in danger but not Anderson’s. She is a hypocrite.

  • Because Aiken’s job is not traveling to third world countries?

  • My son gave me Kathy’s book as a Christmas gift and I was so excited to get the time to read it. Once I picked it up I DID NOT WANT TO PUT IT DOWN! I was so sad when it actually ended because I wanted the book to go on forever. I enjoy trying to see life through the eyes of comedy as often as possible and reading Kathy’s book really confirms that view. Kathy is AWESOME!

  • I don’t think she is funny, Matter-of-fact, I find her offensive. I don’t like that personal “attack style” in gays and lesbians and I certainly don’t like it in a straight woman trying to appeal to us.

  • Expat, sorry about your IQ.

  • Expat …………..

    Banda Aceh in Indonesia, Afghanistan and Somalia are not third world countries? What world do you live in?

  • Drew and Premie, Clay’s JOB is not traveling to third world countries. Anderson Cooper’s JOB IS. Clay is a singer. Cooper is a news reporter. See the difference?

  • The difference is that Clay Aiken volunteers his time and money and, apparently is expected to sacrifice his safety as well. He travels the world with UNICEF to do his best to assure children get the best education possible, under dreadful circumstances. He spends two weeks at a time putting his life in danger, for the pleasure of Kathy Griffin and her audiences. It may not be Clay’s job, but he does it anyway because it needs doing.

    Kathy is part of today’s comedians, who can’t find anything funny except making other people look stupid. That has hurt Jay and Conan, and hopefully will hurt Kathy one day. Think about it.

  • I find nothing funny about Kathy. The only way she gets a laugh is to put someone else down. How sad.

    NOBODY has the right to “out” anyone else. It is too private and personal.

    It all comes down to respect. Kathy has not respect for herself so of course she has no respect for others.

  • I’m not her lawyer, alright?
    Anyway she admittedly has double standards. Maybe her audience laughed at insinuating that Aiken was gay, but not Cooper.

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