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QUEERY: Cathy Fink

The local musician and activist answers 20 gay questions

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You wouldn’t necessarily think of the D.C. region as being a hotbed of folk or bluegrass music but Cathy Fink says there’s a lot more than you might guess.

“There are many music communities around here,” the 65-year-old Baltimore native says. “Some overlap and some do not. We hang in a bunch of them — traditional and contemporary folk, old-time string band songs and dance tunes on fiddle, guitar, banjo, mandolin, etc., swing music … and others. There is so much good music and musicianship in the D.C. area.”

Fink and her long-time singing partner and wife Marcy Marxer will be joined by their friend Sam Gleaves for a concert at AMP Strathmore (11810 Grand Park Ave., North Bethesda, Md.) on Thursday, Jan. 31 at 8 p.m. Tickets are $15-20 at ampbystrathmore.com. Expect lots of vocal harmonies and instrumental virtuosity on fiddle, banjo, mandolin, ukulele and guitar. The Bluegrass Situation called their collaboration a “perfect illustration of cross-generational mind and musical melds.”

Fink and Marxer met at a folk festival in 1980 and have been making albums and touring together for decades. They met Gleaves, who’s gay, five years ago and perform both with and without him. Fink says he’s a “great extension of our duo work. … We work together when it fits our schedules and the opportunity is right.” 

Fink says the folk world has always been fine with lesbian musicians and the bluegrass realm is “slowly opening its doors.” Fink has released about 47 albums over the years. Her latest, “Shout and Shine,” was released in summer 2017. Find out more at cathymarcy.com

Fink moved to the D.C. area in 1979. She and Marxer live in Silver Spring, Md. Fink enjoys music, quilting, writing short stories, hiking, cycling and volunteering in her free time. 

How long have you been out and who was the hardest person to tell?

Marcy and I have been together for 35 years. The hardest person to tell was probably my mother. She, like the rest of my family, easily saw how amazing Marcy was and those still alive are still crazy about her. Who wouldn’t be?

Who’s your LGBT hero?

Wow, there are many. Cleve Jones’ brilliance in starting the AIDS Memorial Quilt was a huge inspiration. I wrote five songs about the quilt. Holly Near sings loud songs that question, educate and inspire us to action. 

What’s Washington’s best nightspot, past or present? 

Concert halls or theaters such as Round House Theater, The Birchmere, AMP by Strathmore, Strathmore Mansion, The Hamilton, Woolly Mammoth or even a local summer park show. 

Describe your dream wedding.

I had my dream wedding. Marcy and I had a two-hour wedding and the party was part of the ceremony with several musical friends performing. It was happy, profound and an extension of the commitment we had already made to each other.

What non-LGBT issue are you most passionate about?

There are so many. We have always been passionate about helping children and families. Tomorrow I’m volunteering at Nourish Now, a Gaithersburg food pantry. I’m also passionate about mentoring the up-and-coming musical generations and volunteer a lot of time doing that. I’m most passionate about the thing I’m currently doing, whatever it is.

What historical outcome would you change?

Trump. Over and out. And out the sooner the better.

What’s been the most memorable pop culture moment of your lifetime?

My first big folk music concert was Pete Seeger and Arlo Guthrie in Montreal. It was amazing and opened my eyes to the wide word of audience engagement, social justice in music and the simple concept of putting on a great show as a folk singer. I later got to work and record with Pete Seeger and have shared a few stages with Arlo. Thrilling!

On what do you insist?

Respect

What was your last Facebook post or Tweet?

I posted about yesterday’s Women’s March, including a few favorite signs. And today I posted about local lesbian songwriter Crys Matthews’ brilliant concert in honor of Martin Luther King at the Reston Community Center.

If your life were a book, what would the title be?

I am actually working on a memoir. Don’t know what it will be called. Possibly something along the lines of “You Can’t Make This Shit Up.” 

If science discovered a way to change sexual orientation, what would you do?

I loved and lived with a male partner for five years. When that was over, it never occurred to me to think of myself as a lesbian. When I fell in love with Marcy, I had to come to terms with recognizing a love that would take some adjustments on my part in thinking about who I was. Honestly, I don’t think hard about whether I am this label or that label. I understood that I was one half of a magnet and she was the other half and we have lived happily ever after. I wouldn’t change a thing for myself, but I would be supportive of people who understood that they needed to make a change.

What do you believe in beyond the physical world? 

I believe that energy is neither created nor destroyed. I believe in karma, but have no clue how it works. I believe I have met people that I was closely associated with in other lives or times. I believe there is some form of energy out there we can all contribute to.

What’s your advice for LGBT movement leaders?

Remember that music has powered many a great movement. “We Shall Overcome” went from hymnals to tobacco workers to the Highlander Center to Guy Carawan to Pete Seeger to the world and it still powers movements. There are a lot of us out there ready to support events and communities.

What would you walk across hot coals for?

To save a life.

What LGBT stereotype annoys you most?

Most of them.

What’s your favorite LGBT movie?

“Cloudburst” with Olympia Dukakis and Brenda Fricker (2011). And the closing song, “Ain’t Life Sweet” just happened to be by a friend of mine from Canada, Penny Lang.

What’s the most overrated social custom?

Changing the fork from left hand when cutting food to right hand when eating it. It is strictly an American thing and hopefully, a custom long done. But too late, my parents insisted I do it and I can’t help it.

What trophy or prize do you most covet?

Last weekend, I was in the studio in Raleigh, N.C., mentoring two 16-year-old musicians. They are both awesome and they both stepped right up to the plate creating some amazing tracks. That’s the best reward I can possibly get is to see and hear that magic. But I ain’t telling you that I ain’t proud of my 14 Grammy nominations and two Grammy Awards! Or the blue ribbon first place in the clawhammer banjo competition at the Appalachian Stringband Music Festival last summer.

What do you wish you’d known at 18?

I wish I’d known all kinds of stuff that no one in my family would have known how to talk about like social justice and activism.  

Why Washington?

Friends and music. We also spend time in Lansing, N.C., and have built another community of friends, musicians and co-workers there.

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Marc Shaiman reflects on musical success stories

In new memoir, Broadway composer talks ‘Fidler,’ ‘Wiz,’ and stalking Bette Midler

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If you haven’t heard the name Marc Shaiman, you’ve most likely heard his music or lyrics in one of your favorite Broadway shows or movies released in the past 50 years. From composing the Broadway scores for Hairspray and Catch Me if You Can to most recently working on Only Murders in the Building, Hocus Pocus 2, and Mary Poppins Returns, the openly queer artist has had a versatile career — one that keeps him just an Oscar away from EGOT status.

The one thing the award-winning composer, lyricist, and writer credits with launching his successful career? Showing up, time and time again. Eventually, he lucked out in finding himself at the right place at the right time, meeting industry figures like Rob Reiner, Billy Crystal, and Bette Midler, who were immediately impressed with his musical instincts on the piano.

“Put my picture under the dictionary definition for being in the right place at the right time,” Shaiman says. “What I often try to say to students is, ‘Show up. Say yes to everything.’ Because you never know who is in the back of the theater that you had no idea was going to be there. Or even when you audition and don’t get the part. My book is an endless example of dreams coming true, and a lot of these came true just because I showed up. I raised my hand. I had the chutzpah!”

Recalling one example from his memoir, titled Never Mind the Happy: Showbiz Stories from a Sore Winner ( just hit bookshelves on Jan. 27), Shaiman says he heard Midler was only hiring Los Angeles-based artists for her world tour. At the young age of 20, the New York-based Shaiman took a chance and bought the cheapest flight he could find from JFK. Once landing in L.A., he called up Midler and simply asked: “Where’s rehearsal?”

“Would I do that nowadays? I don’t know,” Shaiman admits. “But when you’re young and you’re fearless … I was just obsessed, I guess you could say. Maybe I was a stalker! Luckily, I was a stalker who had the goods to be able to co-create with her and live up to my wanting to be around.”

On the occasion of Never Mind the Happy’s official release, the Bladehad the opportunity to chat with Shaiman about his decades-spanning career. He recalls the sexual freedom of his community theater days, the first time he heard someone gleefully yell profanities during a late screening of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and why the late Rob Reiner was instrumental to both his career and his lasting marriage to Louis Mirabal. This interview has been edited and condensed.

BLADE: Naturally, a good place to start would be your book, “Never Mind the Happy.” What prompted you to want to tell the story of your life at this point in your career?

SHAIMAN: I had a couple of years where, if there was an anniversary of a movie or a Broadway show I co-created, I’d write about it online. People were always saying to me, “Oh my God, you should write a book!” But I see them say that to everybody. Someone says, “Oh, today my kitten knocked over the tea kettle.” “You should write a book with these hysterical stories.” So I just took it with a grain of salt when people would say that to me. But then I was listening to Julia Louis-Dreyfus’ podcast, and Jane Fonda was on talking about her memoir — not that I’m comparing myself to a career like Jane Fonda’s — but she felt it was time to take a life review. That really stuck in my head. At the time, I was sulking or moping about something that had not gone as well as I wished. And I guess I kind of thought, “Let me look back at all these things that I have done.” Because I have done a lot. I’m just weeks short of my 50th year in show business, despite how youthful I look! I just sat down and started writing before anyone asked, as far as an actual publisher.

I started writing as a way to try to remind myself of the joyous, wonderful things that have happened, and for me not to always be so caught up on what didn’t go right. I’ve been telling some of these stories over the years, and it was really fun to sit down and not just be at a dinner party telling a story. There’s something about the written word and really figuring out the best way to tell the story and how to get across a certain person’s voice. I really enjoyed the writing. It was the editing that was the hard part!

BLADE: You recall experiences that made you fall in love with the world of theater and music, from the days you would skip class to go see a show or work in regional productions. What was it like returning to those early memories?

SHAIMAN: Wonderful. My few years of doing community theater included productions that were all kids, and many productions with adults, where I was this freaky little 12-year-old who could play show business piano beyond my years. It was just bizarre! Every time a director would introduce me to another cast of adults, they’d be like, “Are you kidding?” I’d go to the piano, and I would sightread the overture to Funny Girl, and everybody said, “Oh, OK!” Those were just joyous, wonderful years, making the kind of friends that are literally still my friends. You’re discovering musical theatre, you’re discovering new friends who have the same likes and dreams, and discovering sex. Oh my god! I lost my virginity at the opening night of Jesus Christ Superstar, so I’m all for community theater!

BLADE: What do you recall from your early experiences watching Broadway shows? Did that open everything up for you?

SHAIMAN: I don’t remember seeing Fiddler on the Roof when I was a kid, but I remember being really enthralled with this one woman’s picture in the souvenir folio — the smile on her face as she’s looking up in the pictures or looking to her father for approval. I always remember zooming in on her and being fascinated by this woman’s face: turns out it was Bette Midler. So my love for Bette Midler began even before I heard her solo records.

Pippin and The Wiz were the first Broadway musicals I saw as a young teenager who had started working in community theater and really wanted to be a part of it. I still remember Pippin with Ben Vereen and all those hands. At the time, I thought getting a seat in the front row was really cool — I’ve learned since that it only hurts your neck, but I remember sitting in the front row at The Wiz as Stephanie Mills sang Home. Oh my god, I can still see it right now. And then I saw Bette Midler in concert, finally, after idolizing her and being a crazed fan who did nothing but listen to her records, dreaming that someday I’d get to play for her. And it all came true even before I turned 18 years old. I just happened to be in the right place at the right time, and met one of her backup singers and became their musical director. I was brought to a Bette Midler rehearsal. I still hadn’t even turned 18, she heard me play and said, “Stick around.” And I’ve stuck around close to 55 years! She’s going to interview me in L.A. at the Academy Museum. Would I have ever thought that Bette Midler would say yes to sitting with me, interviewing me about my life and career?

BLADE: That’s amazing. Has she had a chance to read the book yet?

SHAIMAN: She read it. We just talked yesterday, and she wants to ask the right questions at the event. And she even said to me, “Marc, I wasn’t even aware of all that you’ve done.” We’ve been great friends for all these years, but sometimes months or almost years go by where you’re not completely in touch.

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D.C. LGBTQ sports bar Pitchers listed for sale

Move follows months of challenges for local businesses in wake of Trump actions

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Pitchers is for sale at an undisclosed price. (Washington Blade file photo by Michael Key)

A Santa Monica, Calif.-based commercial real estate company called Zacuto Group has released a 20-page online brochure announcing the sale of the D.C. LGBTQ sports bar Pitchers and its adjoining lesbian bar A League of Her Own.

 The brochure does not disclose the sale price, and Pitchers owner David Perruzza told the Washington Blade he prefers to hold off on talking about his plans to sell the business at this time.

He said the sale price will be disclosed to “those who are interested.” 

“Matthew Luchs and Matt Ambrose of the Zacuto Group have been selected to exclusively market for sale Pitchers D.C., located at 2317 18th Street, NW in Washington, D.C located in the vibrant and nightlife Adams Morgan neighborhood,” the sales brochure states.

 “Since opening its doors in 2018, Pitchers has quickly become the largest and most prominent LGBTQ+ bar in Washington, D.C., serving as a cornerstone of D.C.’s modern queer nightlife scene,” it says, adding, “The 10,000+ SF building designed as a large-scale inclusive LGBTQ+ sports bar and social hub, offering a welcoming environment for the entire community.”

It points out that the Pitchers building, which has two years remaining on its lease and has a five-year renewal option, is a multi-level venue that features five bar areas, “indoor and outdoor seating, and multiple patios, creating a dynamic and flexible layout that supports a wide range of events and high customer volume.”

“Pitchers D.C. is also home to A League of Her Own, the only dedicated lesbian bar in Washington, D.C., further strengthening its role as a vital and inclusive community space at a time when such venues are increasingly rare nationwide,” the brochure says. 

Zacuto Group sales agent Luchs, who serves as the company’s senior vice president, did not immediately respond to a phone message left by the Blade seeking further information, including the sale price. 

News of Perruzza’s decision to sell Pitchers and A League of Her Own follows his Facebook postings last fall saying Pitchers, like other bars in D.C., was adversely impacted by the Trump administration’s deployment of National Guard soldiers on D.C. streets   

In an Oct. 10 Facebook post, Perruzza said he was facing, “probably the worst economy I have seen in a while and everyone in D.C. is dealing with the Trump drama.” He told the Blade in a Nov. 10 interview that Pitchers continued to draw a large customer base, but patrons were not spending as much on drinks.

The Zacuto Group sales brochure says Pitchers currently provides a “rare combination of scale, multiple bars, inclusivity, and established reputation that provides a unique investment opportunity for any buyer seeking a long-term asset with a loyal and consistent customer base,” suggesting that, similar to other D.C. LGBTQ bars, business has returned to normal with less impact from the Trump related issues.

The sales brochure can be accessed here.

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Alexander Skarsgård describes ‘Pillion’ in 3 words: lube, sweat, leather

Highly anticipated film a refreshingly loving look at Dom-sub life

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Harry Melling and Alexander Skarsgård star in ‘Pillion,’ which premieres in the U.S. on Feb. 6. (Photo courtesy of A24)

Whether you’ve seen him in popular HBO series like “True Blood,” “Succession,” or “Big Little Lies,” the dynamic Swedish actor Alexander Skarsgård has that smoldering gaze that immediately draws viewers in. 

Following in the footsteps of his father Stellan, (who just won the Golden Globe for “Sentimental Value”) the Golden Globe, Emmy, and SAG winner Skarsgård continues to be an actor who is fearless in the roles he takes on. 

That courageousness is evident in Skarsgård’s latest film, the BDSM black comedy “Pillion,”which he also executive produces. He plays Ray, the handsome, hyper-dominant leader of a gay bike gang. The film was written and directed by Harry Lighton, and is based on the 2020 novel “Box Hill,” by Adam Mars-Jones. 

“This was a small film by a first time filmmaker and it wasn’t financed when I read it,”  Skarsgård told journalists at a recent awards news conference. “And I felt that, if I could help in any small way of getting it financed, I wanted to, because I thought it was such an incredible screenplay and I believe in Harry Lighton so much as a filmmaker. And it felt tonally unlike anything I’d ever read. It was such an exciting, surprising read.”

Skarsgård was blown away by the quality of the unconventional script. “When I heard BDSM relationship, biker culture, I expected something very different. I didn’t expect it to have so much sweetness and tenderness and awkwardness.”

For the sex scenes and nudity with co-star, Harry Melling — who excels in his portrayal as Ray’s submissive Colin — Skarsgård talked very early on with Lighton about how he wanted to shoot those scenes, and why they were in the film. 

“I often find sex scenes quite boring in movies because a lot of the tension is in the drama leading up to two people hooking up, or several people hooking up, as in our movie. But what I really enjoyed about these scenes — they are all pivotal moments in Colin’s journey and his development. It’s the first time he gets a blowjob. It’s the first time he has sex. It’s the first time he has an orgasm. And these are pivotal moments for him, so they mean a lot. And that made those scenes impactful and important.” 

Skarsgård was happy that Lighton’s script didn’t have gratuitous scenes that shock for the sake of just shocking. “I really appreciated that because I find that when this subculture is portrayed, it’s often dangerous and crazy and wild and something like transgressive.”

He continued: “I really love that Harry wanted it to feel real. It can be sexy and intense, but also quite loving and sweet. And you can have an orgy in the woods, rub up against a Sunday roast with the family. And that kind of feels real.”

One of the obstacles Skarsgård had to work with was Ray’s emotionally distant personality.

“Ray is so enigmatic throughout the film and you obviously never find out anything about him, his past. He doesn’t reveal much. He doesn’t expose himself. And that was a challenge to try to make the character interesting, because that could easily feel quite flat…That was something that I thought quite a lot about in pre production…there are no big dramatic shifts in his arc.”

For the film, Lighton consulted the GMBCC, the UK’s largest LGBT+ biker club, attending their annual meetup at which 80 riders were present. 

“Working with these guys was extraordinary and it brought so much texture and richness to the film to have them present,” said Skarsgård. “They were incredibly sweet and guiding with us — I can’t imagine making this movie without them. I’d go on a road trip with them anytime.”

Added Skarsgård: “To sum up ‘Pillion’ in three words: lube, sweat, and leather. I hope people will connect with Colin and his journey, and come to understand the nuance and complexity of his bond with Ray.”

This year is shaping up to be a busy one for Skarsgård. “Pillion” premieres in select cities on Feb. 6 and then moves into wide release on Feb. 20. After that for Skarsgård is a role in queer ally Charli XCX’s mockumentary, “The Moment,” which premieres at the Sundance Film Festival. HIs sci-fi comedy series,  Apple TV’s “Murderbot,” which he also executive produces, will begin filming its second season. And this weekend, he hosts “Saturday Night Live.”

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