The campaign for Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) criticized the Human Rights Campaign for endorsing Hillary Clinton. (Image via C-Span)
The presidential campaign for Democratic candidate Bernard Sanders (I-Vt.) tore into the Human Rights Campaign on Tuesday for endorsing Hillary Clinton.
After the Human Rights Campaign announced on Tuesday it would back Clinton, the Sanders campaign criticized the nation’s largest LGBT group in response to a Washington Blade inquiry for a reaction.
“It’s understandable and consistent with the establishment organizations voting for the establishment candidate, but it’s an endorsement that cannot possibly be based on the facts and the record,” said Sanders campaign spokesperson Michael Briggs.
Touting Sanders as “somebody who’s been for gay rights long, long ago” since he was mayor of Burlington, Vt., Briggs said Sanders as a U.S. senator voted against “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” in 1993 and he voted against the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996. Briggs also cited Sanders’ support in calling on the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn DOMA.
Recalling Sanders’ support for civil unions in Vermont when it became the first state to enact them in 2000, Briggs said Sanders was “a pioneer on this early version of gay marriage, and has by far the most exemplary record on gay rights of any candidate ever in American history.”
Both “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” and DOMA became law under former President Bill Clinton.
Hillary Clinton supported DOMA through her 2000 campaign for a U.S. Senate seat in New York and backed only repealing Section 3 of the law during her first presidential campaign. Both Bill and Hillary Clinton now support marriage equality.
“So who knows what prompted the Human Rights Campaign to do what it does — I have trouble myself figuring why they do some of the things they do over the years — but I think the gay men and lesbians all over the country will know who has been their champion for a long, long time and will consider that as they make up their mind on support for his campaign,” Briggs said.
Asked whether he meant to include bisexual and transgender people in his description of gay men and lesbians, Briggs said that was correct and he meant “LGBTQ people all over the country.”
Briggs declined to elaborate on what actions the Human Rights Campaign has taken that he doesn’t understand.
Brandon Lorenz, a spokesperson for the Human Rights Campaign, in a statement to the Blade responded to the Sanders campaign’s criticisms.
“There are certainly several friends of equality in this race, but the 32 community leaders who comprise HRC’s Board of Directors have unanimously decided that Hillary Clinton is the champion we need to fight for us each day on the campaign trail and every day in the White House,” said Lorenz. “She has a strong record, a strong agenda, and a strong ability to win against any Republican running on an anti-LGBT platform in November and lead from Day One.”
Each of the Democratic presidential candidates submitted responses to questionnaires by the Human Rights Campaign, which the organization made public on the day it announced its endorsement. Both Clinton and Sanders responded in the affirmative to every action HRC sought in its questionnaire.
In May, Sanders, in an interview with the Washington Blade, became the first presidential candidate to support openly trans service in the U.S. military and made a point about including trans people in his campaign and presidency.
Asked what steps can be taken to address the high rate of violence against trans women, particularly trans women of color, Sanders said, “I think we have to, among other things, do a better job in educating our police officers.”
But Sanders hasn’t always been in favor of full marriage equality. In 2006 when asked by the Vermont-based Times Argus newspaper if Vermont should legalize same-sex marriage, Sanders was quoted as saying, “Not right now, not after what we went through,” referring to the conflict in the state over civil unions.
HRC endorsed then-Democratic candidate Barack Obama in June 2008 after he had secured the nomination following a bruising primary battle with Hillary Clinton.
Matt Corridoni, a spokesperson for Martin O’Malley, responded to the Human Rights Campaign’s endorsement of Clinton by emphasizing the former Maryland’s governor record on LGBT rights.
“Gov. O’Malley passed Maryland’s first transgender anti-discrimination bill as mayor of Baltimore, signed marriage equality into law as governor of Maryland and defended it at the ballot box, and his campaign is the only on record saying he would consider and LGBT running mate,” Corridoni said. “His record speaks for itself.”
Sanders is 100% correct. HRC has revealed itself as the kind of organization that turns it back on someone who has been fighting in the trenches for LGBT rights for DECADES – even when it was politically risky. They won’t get a dime from me ever again.
Same here
Amen Brother. I did the same. I feel like Chad Griffin slapped me in the face, and I’m not into that sort of thing so I cancelled my partners membership and any future donations.
Chad Griffin and his deputies are all just angling for appointments in a would-be Clinton administration. It’s all about their personal ambitions. It’s that simple.
This isn’t the first time the HRC has betrayed the LGBT civil rights movement, and it won’t be the last.
Except when he wasn’t fighting for LGBT rights because they were “too divisive” [his words, not mine].
I done with HRC. I agree with Sanders.
Sanders is an OLD, unelectable socialist. You Bernie bots are disgusting unhinged extremists.
Bots?!, you are coppy pasting the same shit all over, lol. How much did they pay you at the Clinton campaign?!
He’s a democratic socialist. And that’s a positive label, not a negative one.
True, but he’s a dreamer and a nut who is just talking out his ass. He cannot make any of these things happen, and he knows it. He’s not Obama, he’s been in the Senate for more than a minute.
I don’t think he thinks he can change America overnight..but he can start the ball rolling. If he is good enough to get re-elected after a first term, he might actually put a dent in some issues. And really, that’s all any President can hope for.. But the dent he makes might make it easier for the next guy to make an even bigger dent if someone from the same party gets elected and continues what he started. I realize its not realistic to expect this.. But if we can get 3 or 4 Democrats serving back to back terms as Pres, you might actually see a nice difference in America.
He’s an unelectable socialist and he’s FINISHED you wACKO.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
How could he be “unelectable”? He has been elected a hell of a lot more times over a hell of a lot more years than Hell- ery! How do you deem him “unelectable”?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I she will change back once elected
Your argument would be a lot more solid if it wasn’t the same exact argument Obama had… until he set the stage for full marriage equality. Not to mention it was also Bernie Sanders’ argument at the same time this video was recorded. People evolve. Both candidates evolved. Both candidates support the LGBT community. I’m not sure why this is so contentious.
Could you find the YouTube clip of Sanders arguing the same? Please link.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/10/05/bernie_sanders_on_marriage_equality_he_s_no_longtime_champion.html
In that clip, he didn’t argue for the sanctity of marriage. He stated he is against Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and voted against DOMA.
He also said in 2006 that he doesn’t want to pursue gay marriage because it’s “too divisive.” You conveniently glossed over that part.
He stated it was a state issue, not that he believed in the sanctity of marriage and not that it was defined as a man and woman. That’s what bothered me about Hillary’s recording. I don’t have a problem with someone arguing a state versus federal issue. I believe states should have more decision power.
“Divisive” is not the same as defining marriage specifically as a union between man and woman, which Hillary did. No need for the snarky adverb, I didn’t place much relevance in the “divisive” description. It’s much less of an impact than going into a definition of what marriage is.
Politifact fact checks his record here. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/sep/29/chuck-todd/nbcs-chuck-todd-bernie-sanders-there-same-sex-marr/
They checked a few facts, but they’re also missing a few facts. The fact that their Lexis Nexis search didn’t return a quote from his chief of staff / wife saying he opposed DOMA on states’ rights ground apparently escaped him. They also misssed his quote to the Vermont reporter in 2006 saying he has no interest in pursuing full equal rights as it would be “too divisive.” Everything in this politifact link is in fact correct, but I give it a grade of Incomplete. They missed a few rather important and relevant details.
TBR78, you also left out the context of the “too divisive” comment, so you are also incomplete.
Sanders’ comment was in response to the question of pushing for “gay marriage” shortly after the Vermont election affirming “domestic unions”. To me that is a political strategy comment, not a definition or policy statement, which Clinton’s was.
Clinton, while seemingly evolved from it now, was that marriage was and should be only for “one man & one women” and that LGBT marriages were less than hetero marriages. That is starkly different than Sanders comment and his support of that first in the nation Vermont vote is also in years ahead of Clinton at the time.
“were less than hetero marriages.” Sensational much? You’re splitting hairs now. Regardless if Sanders statement was a political strategy comment vs a policy statement, he didn’t feel it was a good use of his time to fight for the cause, so your argument isn’t holding a great deal of water here.
True, not sensation. Maybe the truth hurts, so it is sensation to you. He didn’t feel it was good use of his time at that time – still strategy not policy or definition – again big difference from Clinton.
Yes, and the truth hurts for you too when the facts are laid out for you that Sanders is hardly the gay rights crusader you have built up in your head has no basis in reality.
Boy you most be reading the fact check article, that you agreed was correct, except for two additions, very differently than I. Those facts were he was a supporter of LGBT rights long before Clinton considered supporting it and long before most politicians. And is still a stronger supporter. So if you have other evidence please present it.
Read this expose from a feminist site. They did a similar analysis for Clinton and were equally meticulous in terms of detail and accountability and assigning culpability. What’s great about this expose is that they conducted primary research speaking to people who actually were LGBT activists in a position to know precisely where the candidates stood at the time.
http://www.shakesville.com/2015/07/looking-for-bernie-part-4-turning-right.html
Oh god. 6 posts? Puh-LEEZ, BernieBot. I can’t believe I was wasting my time here. You people are really bad at pretending to be real people. I was foolish in not checking your profile first.
No Bot, quite the opposite. I have a life and can’t spend all day replying here. And I needed to take the time to read your information. And no I didn’t & haven’t taken the time to fill out the profile data. So cool your jets.
OK, Sanders wasn’t an immediate equal marriage supporter. Of course I know many of my LGBT friends & activists were divided on civil unions vs. marriage at the time. In fact here in NM the LGBT community stood up to the LGBT political leaders to say no to a compromise of a non-marriage relationship that had marriage benefits the political leaders wanted to accept. Personally I would have been fine to create a two step process and leave marriage as a religious ritual/certificate and make the requisite civil contract a civil union for all couples. So as with DADT there were pragmatic LGBT & supporters who saw it as an incremental step and supported it, the same was true for folks who supported civil union/domestic partnerships as an incremental step.
Those marriage light tacts did allow some people to get some benefits sooner, but never eliminated the second class status which was eliminated by marriage equality. So I am not surprised or greatly offended by a not LGBT person not being sure how to proceed at the time.
And again, Sanders never said proclaimed marriage was only for heterosexual relationships and peddled to those scared of marriage equality that Clinton did. He has a long track record of supporting LGBT rights.
And as noted in the article you offered, “But Sanders has other, more genuine positives to be talked about in this regard, so anyone who wants to support him has plenty of genuine material.”
From my point of view support between Sanders vs. Clinton comes down to:
– do you want radical change & believe it is needed; or
– do you want incremental change & hope it will slowly change in time.
Frankly on environmental/climate change and corporate & oligarchic control of our political & economic system I think there needs to be radical change or we will be lost. We do not have the luxury of incremental change. Sanders is for radical change and Clinton is for incremental change as their political history on LGBT rights indicates.
Obviously you believe in incremental change & I believe in radical change. So I am content to agree to disagree, because our discussion on the details of Sanders’ timing of evolution to supporting marriage equality really has very little to do with the real issues on which we disagree. And this is not the comment forum for that discussion.
So what, old news and the largest LGBT organization just endorsed her. Unlike you, they know who will win and beat the Republicans.
“the largest LGBT organization just endorsed her.”
No, 32 well connected, well paid, Hillary Clinton supporters endorsed her, and then they DECIDED for the rest of their “members,” a number which they arrive at by counting up every single donation (of ANY amount, even $1) as well as ANY purchase of ANY item, because if you buy something, then you count as a “member.”
HRC is a political lobbying firm that takes advantage of a rights movement to raise cash and promote Democratic candidates, and little else. It’s why they often don’t align with the rest of the LGBTQ community, despite being the highest profile group. They are just another PAC hiding their political maneuvering behind one political issue. If you don’t believe me, start taking a look at some of the major corporations that commit some pretty horrible human rights abuses across the globe that get the thumbs up from them.
I don’t think being well connected is a bad thing, in fact it’s good. Hillary will win the general, Bernie will not. It’s simple as that. I’m not a gambling person, I will not bet on Bernie.
“Hillary will win the general, Bernie will not.”
Absolutists tend to spend the majority of their lives upset about one thing or another.
I’ll say that Clinton has the odds in her favor to win the primary AT THE MOMENT, but that only means that she is the more likely AT THE MOMENT.
All it takes is a few victories for Sanders to change the entire game. Sanders support only grows with more exposure, as his entire platform has majority support among the majority of the public, if you check public polling across the individual planks within his platform.
As for the general, Clinton has a favorability to unfavorability rating issue, and no one wins with a net unfavorability rating like hers ever wins the general (although with the current GOP crop, that rule is also up for debate). Do you honestly believe that Clinton has a better shot than Sanders? The ONLY people that Clinton appeals to are Democrats, who only make up 1/3 of the registered voters, so the ONLY way for her to win is for the Democrats to ALSO hope for low voter turn-out, but not too low to ensure a GOP victory, which would also ensure a GOP majority House and make the Senate a toss up. Sanders, on the other hand, appeals to an EXTREMELY broad swath of the voting public, including a TON of former Reaganites, libertarians, anti-establishment GOP voters, moderates and independents of all stripes, liberals, Democrats, and hardcore extreme leftists who are in the burn the corporate sellout DNC to the ground crowd. Stop eating the crap that the Clinton camp is spoon feeding you.
4 paragraphs of absolute drivel! The Bernie bubble will pop after NH. He can have NH :)
“4 paragraphs of absolute drivel! The Bernie bubble will pop after NH. He can have NH :)”
It is possible. But we shall see.
All Sanders needs to gain more support is exposure.
Clinton needs to attack and degrade her opponents (which has been counterproductive every time she’s attempted it with Sanders), defend herself from constant 180 “evolutions” on pretty much every political issue, stop losing support from her nonstop transparent pandering, keep the press in line, minimize the public’s exposure to Sanders (increasingly difficult), somehow increase her fundraising, avoid major gaffes, keep her major political campaign cash coordination activities fairly quiet (because its pretty messed up, even beyond the shady stuff Rubio and Cruz have been pulling; check out Sunlight.org’s articles for more details), somehow overcome a large net UNfavorability (which has NEVER been done in political history to win a general election, btw), and somehow manage to keep the internet and social media from steamrolling her if Iowa and NH are both victories and annihilate HER OWN self imposed tale of inevitability and invincibility.
I do want Sanders to gain more exposure. Then he can be vetted the way Clinton has for the last 30 years by the media. Right now, media needs readers. They are propping up Bernie for readers! They need drama. BTW Bernie and Cornel West have been sharp critics of Obama, take that to the minorities.
“BTW Bernie and Cornel West have been sharp critics of Obama, take that to the minorities.”
I am a harsh critic of Obama on plenty of topics. In fact, PLENTY of people are. Blind loyalty only go so far, and only work for a small bloc of party loyalists, who have been growing smaller by the year. You’d think embarrassing Congressional election results from 2010-2014 would have at least giving you a small inkling of that.
Perhaps you haven’t noticed, but Democrats are only 1/3 of the registered voters, and even then, there are TONS of Democrats who aren’t too thrilled with the steady march toward the center that the Democratic Party has been taking for the past 30 years, a (quite rightly) recognize Clinton as a centrist (at best) on economic issues, barely left of center on social issues, and a blatant neo-con on foreign affairs. She’s more or less a Reagan Republican, but ok with abortion and homosexuals now and somehow good at convincing Democrats that she’s totally on their side.
Obama lost congress because the pubs declared from day one that Obama would not make a 2nd term, so if they were fighting his presidency, obviously they were fighting him in congress. You didn’t observe the gridlock in congress that stymied his every move? A lot of it was racial. Imagine losing to a dem and a black one at that.
Why do you think it was racially motivated? Could it be that it was largely due to anti-spending measures?
“Obama lost congress because the pubs declared from day one that Obama would not make a 2nd term”
Oh really? The voters of this country all decided not to vote for Democrats because Republicans (1/4 of the registered voters in this country) declared from day one that Obama wouldn’t have a second term?
Yes, Republicans obstructed him, and yes, he got a lot of blame that he didn;t deserve, but trying to pretend like THREE STRAIGHT national elections of Democratic losses are because REPUBLICANS were mean to Obama is only further underscoring my point as to how blind Democrats are to their weaknesses as a party and why they are likely to continue their downward descent in a time when they should be able to easily skyrocket to veto proof majorities in both House and Senate while the Republicans are playing their circular firing squad games.
Instead of listening to the American people, the Democrats are too busy listening to the Democratic Party, and not even the registered Democratic voters, just the Party officials, who rarely have any connection to average, actual citizens. All the while, any shortcoming cannot be in any way their own fault (not even partly), and by ignoring the possibility of any fault, they ignore any possibility of improvement and progress. That’s why the Democratic Party has been marching to the right since the 90s, and why the US public is now more progressive on average than the “progressive” party; a party that can’t figure out why someone who doesn’t meet ANY of the standard characteristics for a “successful” presidential politician is doing so well simply by supporting things that the MAJORITY of the people support.
This democrat is very happy being in the center! I’ll go to the left here and there, but not Socialist left. AND don’t assume only dems will vote for her, the moderate republicans will too instead of the clowns they have.
” the moderate republicans will too instead of the clowns they have.”
You mean the moderate Republicans who are demanding that we get money out of politics, love the fact that Sanders despises deficit spending (although he makes exceptions for emergency deficit spending), are shouting about how much they despise the political establishment, hate the status quo, are clamoring for a Teddy Roosevelt style trust buster, aren’t fans of Clinton’s firearms stances (especially the extreme left turn), love honesty, aren’t big fans of the ACA, and realize that Rand Paul and Sanders actually share an awful lot more planks in their platform when it comes to personal freedom than Clinton and Sanders do?
You mean those moderate Republicans? Because that’s pretty much my entire EXTREMELY LARGE family, and they are almost all firmly in the Sanders camp. They may not like his social program stances, and a lot aren’t too keen on abortion, but you better believe almost every one of them will vote AGAINST Clinton in a general election no matter who her opponent is.
You just described the right wing. I gotta hand it to you, you go to great lengths for someone who is going to lose big.
Yes, and truth be told, Hillary had many differences of opinion with Obama during her time as Secretary of State. i.e. she wanted “boots on the ground” in Syria. She correctly questioned Obama’s stone cold withdrawal of communications with the Iraqi Prime Minister, which resulted in the Sunni/Shite onslaught. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is a reliable source on many of these matters. Bill Clinton it has been reported wanted Hillary to challenge Obama again in 2012, referring to Obama as “amateurish” and “incompetent.” Funny how the Clinton Campaign is now sort of trying to take credit for John Kerry’s brilliant negotiating skills with Iran for the release of the journalists. Somehow they have twisted this success into a reflection of all the “haaaarrrrdddd” work Hillary did as SOS. The Iraq War and the Arab Spring have resulted in deepening chaos and death not only across the entire middle east, but throughout every part of the world. Hillary voted for the Iraq War and thought the Arab Spring was wonderful. She was shortsighted.
To be honest, she never really fully embraced Obama until just now. Even as Sec of State she was somewhat standoffish in a lot of ways and somewhat questioning. I am guessing that it’s insurance for Nevada and South Carolina, and she’s really trying to keep Sanders from gaining any support among the black demographic, where he is weakest. More pandering from the pander-master.
A curious thing about the Clinton campaign is; That, whenever they attack Bernie Sanders the polls go his way along with the contributions!
You don’t think Nevada, Georgia, California are going Sanders way?
He is also winning in Iowa now – and surging in Nevada…and SC…just wait and see.
He’s not winning in Iowa. And he’s not surging in Nevada or SC. Hope is not a strategy.
There will be hell to pay if the popular candidate does not win! I envision National Guard involvement.
Needle, problem is you don’t know everyone who is “well connected” with Hillary. It is a way, way bad thing.
Look at her endorsements, it’s a way good thing. Apparently Bernie who’s been in the senate forever can’t get his colleagues to endorse him. They want to win!
Point to some polling that supports that opinion. Even one poll would do.
HRC is not that smart and is very establishment oriented, and I take it so are you, Needle, with your risk adverse no gambling stance. (But you are gambling with Clinton, just more comfortable with that.)
HRC has significant responsibility for losing the Houston referendum vote on Houston’s civil rights bill last year and unleashing a new effective fear campaign against the LGBT community. So HRC isn’t so knowledgeable on electoral politics and plays it very old school – little to no outreach to non-white communities.
I find HRC very conventional & out of touch with who it purports to represent. It is not at all surprising to find HRC endorsing Clinton – they almost always go with the old comfortable non-boat rocker.
HRC is not that smart and is very establishment oriented, and I take it so are you, Needle, with your risk adverse no gambling stance.
HRC has significant responsibility for losing the Houston referendum vote on Houston’s civil rights bill and unleashing a new effective fear campaign against the LGBT community. So it isn’t so knowledgeable on electoral politics and plays it very old school – little to no outreach to non-white communities.
I find HRC very conventional & out of touch with who it purports to represent. It is not at all surprising to find HRC endorsing Clinton – they almost always go with the old comfortable non-boat rocker.
Well said!
They smell the money Needle. Bernie Sanders has been an advocate of LGBT Rights way before Clinton and Obama.
I like Bernie, but I don’t want a republican president, you guys are playing with FIRE! Hillary in the general will win, not Bernie.
wrong!
Guess you haven’t been looking at the polls lately. Sanders beats all opponents Democrat and Republican, handily. “Morning Joe”, on MSNBC has a segment on just that this morning!
Cmon Nosebetta, “Morning Joe”? I prefer polls from reputable sources, not a Republican hack like Joe.
NATESIVER: I don’t think it’s that surprising. First, as we’ve been saying for six months now, the first two states happen to be pretty favorable for Bernie.
Second, there are a lot of people, including the media and Democratic interest groups, who have a strong incentive for there to be a competitive Democratic race, or at least some semblance of one. To get a little more wonky still, the median voter theorem would imply that two-candidate races should be at least reasonably close.
Third, history suggests that even “inevitable” candidates, like Bob Dole ’96 and George W. Bush ’00, lose a few states. Al Gore ’00 was the only one to sweep all 50. But he nearly lost New Hampshire to Bill Bradley. And if you’d read the press coverage of that race 16 years ago, you’d see plenty of articles about how Bradley was surging and it was time for Gore to panic.
The problem is Bernie won’t win General election! I’m not betting on him with the supreme court in jeopardy!
She’s such a lying, twisted, crass char! To the devil with her!
What Silver is stating is opinion based on data and statistics. And the thing you have to understand about something being 99.99 per cent unlikely..is that it still eventually and occasionally happens.
No one is a whacko because they disagree with Nate Silver or his statistics. Considering what Republicans have done to this country and what they’d like to continue to do this country…if you support them..you should probably watch what you are doing in the glass house you are throwing the whacko stones in..
You keep posting the same garbage you paid troll. Any original thoughts floating around up there?
Of course not! This idiot doesn’t have any original thoughts, he doesn’t even have a brain, lol!
His name is NERO (as in CAESAR!)
Any questions?
Great! Now I’m writing in Barry Sanders in the general election
Barry Sanders? hahahahaha
Bernie the OLD DINO IS TOAST.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
How does it feel to be the biggest loser on the planet? You have nothing better to do than sit here all day posting maniacal things? I think you need to take your meds. Sending this to the FBI because clearly you have lost your mind and will probably go out and shoot up a shopping mall or movie theatre tonight.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
you suffer from a mental illness.
Because he doesn’t support the old, angry socialist? What the hell is the FBI supposed to do? LMAO!
oh I’m sorry. is Nate Silver the only one voting? see you in Iowa.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
DINO Bernie is TOAST.
Ya HRC completely leveled by Bernie Sanders popularity. She is totally floored by his honesty, integrity and more importantly the following he has amassed as a result of the formerly mentioned FACTS. What do you have dumbass? Nate Silver’s opinion predicated on what? Something other than facts to be sure. Grow a brain idiot or go back to the shallow end of the gene pool where you obviously came from.
https://twitter.com/tomwatson/status/689630273613500416?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
cry all you want wacko. Bernie the DINO is DONE. HAHAHHAA
https://youtu.be/o6Xb9p6SbIU
You refer to everyone as bots when you copy in paste every time—if anyone here is DINO TOAST, it’s you pal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
#feelthebernout
Two can play your game. What Nate is saying now: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/18/1471588/-Nate-Bernie-Sanders-is-the-only-candidate-in-either-party-with-a-net-positive-favorability-rating
What Nate Silver said today:
micah: Real means >25 percent chance [of Sanders winning]/
natesilver: Sell.
micah: 20 percent.
harry: Sell.
natesilver: Still selling.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/20/1472601/-NC-Clinton-59-Sanders-26-WOW
DINO Bernie is DONE moron.
…Says the paid off MSM who have been ignoring Bernie as he keeps working and proving them wrong.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Bernie has a better chance than HRC.
OLD Silver quote. Here’s what he’s saying NOW: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/18/1471588/-Nate-Bernie-Sanders-is-the-only-candidate-in-either-party-with-a-net-positive-favorability-rating
Here’s an even-newer Silver quote:
micah: Real means >25 percent chance [of Sanders winning].
natesilver: Sell.
micah: 20 percent.
harry: Sell.
natesilver: Still selling.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/20/1472601/-NC-Clinton-59-Sanders-26-WOW
say bye bye to DINO Bernie. hahaah
All Nate Silver said in the Daily Kos article is that Sanders is the only candidate with “net-positive favorability rating”. Sorry, as much as I would like the article to have Nate Silver saying, “Clinton is not ‘electable'”, it is the article’s author, Mike Vadon, saying this.
OLD quote by Silver. Here’s what he’s saying these days. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/18/1471588/-Nate-Bernie-Sanders-is-the-only-candidate-in-either-party-with-a-net-positive-favorability-rating
Now it’s you with the outdated information. Hot off the press!
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-the-bernie-sanders-surge-real/
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/20/1472601/-NC-Clinton-59-Sanders-26-WOW
#feelthebernout moron hahhaa
Shooo little boy! You are a broken record and no one is listening….
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Bernie the UNELECTABLE DINO is DONE.
You tell ’em, pedophile!
He is beating them ALL in the polls dumbass. Nate Silver gets it wrong and you are quite obviously too fucking stupid to formulate your own opinion based on the facts. Go ahead on ya damn dumb sheep!
Keep talking. You do a fine job of showing your ignorance without any help from anybody else.
He is funny :)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
want a tissue wing nut?
Why should we bother voting. Let’s just let Nate Silver who is president and have done with it. Ummm… No, thanks.
Thanks for the info. WACKO
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/01/trump-keeps-gaining-in-nc-clinton-maintains-huge-lead.html
#Bernieorbust!
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/20/1472601/-NC-Clinton-59-Sanders-26-WOW
Bernie the DINO is FINISHED. HAHAHA
Um, you wanna quote Nate Silver? This was an OLD quote by him. Here’s what he’s NOW saying: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/18/1471588/-Nate-Bernie-Sanders-is-the-only-candidate-in-either-party-with-a-net-positive-favorability-rating
What Nate Silver said today about Bernie’s chances of winning the nomination:
‘If I could get him at 20-1 (implying about a 5 percent chance of winning), I’d take it.’
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/20/1472601/-NC-Clinton-59-Sanders-26-WOW
Bernie the OLD DINO is DONE. HAHAHA
Look up the definitions of Democratic and Socialist in the dictionary. You’ll see that “democratic socialist’ in an oxymoron.
Democracy: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/democracy
Socialism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
Notice, they actually use the word democratic aspart of the mechanisms of socialism,..
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/democratic-socialism
Not only are Democracy and Socialism NOT oxymorons..they often compliment each other very well.
Democracy just means everyone has a say in how the government runs. Socialism means that everyone has a say in how businesses allocate their profits among the citizens.
Hey MainFragger…Don’t look up socialism…Look up Democratic Socialism…They’re two totally different animals…Check out the Scandinavian countries…Sweden…Finland…The Netherlands…Norway…and don’t forget Denmark…called the happiest country on Earth…These countries who practice Democratic Socialism are the ones Bernie Sanders is speaking about…He’s not a Socialist…He is a Democratic Socialist…!! Thank you…
The third link is for Democratic Socialism, I just forgot to separately describe it as such..
Then it’s a good thing the U.S. is a Republic and the people have individual rights that are protected from the mob mentality of democracies and selfish socialists who covet other people’s property, labor and profits.
Well, true.. But at the same time, A Republic means federal government has more power than the individual. Which most Republicans don’t actually like.. Because, as long as law is practiced state to state, there is always a chance they can get away with not having to deal with laws they see as contrary to their business’s ability to make money by closing shop in one state and running their business out of another. Thats why they rail so much against Big Government. Granted, enforcing all of those rules is expensive, but usually when they say it costs too much, what they really mean is that it costs their businesses too much to follow those rules.. You know, rules that protect things like the environment, worker’s rights and safety, product quality and warrranty standards, product safety standards, advertising practices, monopolies and other things that I am just not thinking of this minute. The moment we have a Republic, what SHOULD happen is that the federal government regulates all of those things and keeps everyone honest. Unfortunately, the reality of the situation is that there are two barriers to that. One being that Big Business lobbies against it, and the other being that it IS actually pretty expensive and time consuming to be able to do that. Some of the government agencies are years behind being able to enforce their rules across the country because they don’t have enough funding and manpower to enforce their laws..
Did you actually just regurgitate that from one of your liberal professors? Go ahead admit it, by the way, you paid too much for your “education.”
A republic establishes the rights of the individual and protects the individual’s right to property and production/work.
a democracy is mob rule and socialism takes all means of production and rights away from the individual and hoards it under gov’t control.
How well is gov’t control working for Venezuela?
http://www.theeuropean-magazine.com/andreas-kern–2/9706-the-collapse-of-socialism-in-venezuela
I never went to college for anything that involved a polysci class. And honestly, I ended up going to tech school. I have certifications in computers and networking..nothing political based. I am a gamer, too. And when I game, I admit, I am what they refer to as a “rules lawyer”. In the middle of playing, I have no problem with pulling out the source book of whatever game I am playing and showing the GM the rule to make sure it is followed properly. That is where my comments on Federal government come from. Not from being a Liberal.
If you actually want to know my political ideals, I’ll put it this way , what you refer to Liberal encompasses a great deal of them. But I do not consider myself a liberal, and I only vote Democrat because I do not like/agree with the Republican or “Conservative” ideals.
I have said it in other place, the biggest problem with Liberal and Convservative as labels is that I feel they are practiced in reverse. I think squandering the planets resources, crushing people’s souls, and screwing people over is a lot more expensive than funding programs that try to improve the quality of life in America for someone other than the 1%’ers… So I actually see the Democrats as the Conservatives and the Republicans as the Liberals. However, despite my EXTREME dislike of the the Republican’s, and regardless of whether you want to consider then Liberals or Conservatives..I think its only fair to try to see the other guys point of views. So you will never hear me says the words Conservative or Liberal like they are curse words. I wish Republicans would stop using Liberal and Socialist like they were curse words. Because so far, what they consider ideal isn’t really any better for everyone else..
For the people, by the people is an “oxymoron”?
Don’t confuse yourself being a complete moron with these fine folks who are going to vote for the ONLY honest candidate in the race.
You are talking about Bernie, right?
Oh I see. So the vast majority of the nations of Europe that are socialist are not democracies.
Actually, if any two systems are incompatible it would be Capitalism and Democracy.
The people who use the word socialist as a weapon have no idea what it means and have no idea that socialism was a major part of the democratic party for generations… Most of the biggest wins for the democrats by the likes of FDR and LBJ fighting for workers, consumers, kids, retirees, the sick and the hungry came from the socialist AKA progressive wing of the party… Socialism in labor brought us the unions, child labor laws, minimum wage, 40 hour work week with overtime pay… socialists in the party kept a lid on greed and recklessness for generations, when the Clintons ripped the socialist influence away from the party and delivered the party of the people to corporate America, they took away real choice between the parties on economic issues and we all lost the champions for the people.
Unions did not bring 40 hour weeks, overtime, employer sponsored healthcare or anything else. Henry Ford did before unions infested his company.
You don’t even know what socialism is….
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ford-factory-workers-get-40-hour-week
Your article only speaks of the 40 hour work week and admits that Ford did it in response to labor agitation. Labor action was the driving force behind all of these standards as well as enforceable non-discrimination protections for LGBT workers.
Um, seriously?? You think that LGBT equality has ANYTHING to do with “Labor action”? Take another look at the map of countries respecting LGBT equality– and take note of the “workers’ paradises” and their abysmal record on LGBT equality! I live in a Right to Work state (i.e., a state where unions have ZERO power) and when my husband and I got married in 2009, every single company we dealt with treated our marriage as normal long before our own state government would do so. Stop with all the “workers unite” nonsense! LGBT equality has been a one-on-one effort to change the minds of the people–and we’re winning. As for LGBT “protections”, its simple: only CAPITALISM provides the motivation for a company to be a “good corporate citizen” because its good for the bottom line. When a company is forced to do something–what do you think happens? Do you really believe that a company’s management just throws their hands in the air and says, “Oh, well, we’ll just have to comply now!”?? ON the other hand, when the general public stops choosing a store or company due to its public views, a company has to go through a process of weighing the pros and cons–and their success or failure will depend on THEIR decisions.
Personally, I prefer to KNOW who hates me–so I can avoid them and encourage all my friends to do so as well. But, back to unions… I am proud to have never been a member of a union– and “shockingly” I have never been a victim of anti-LGBT treatment by any private employer!
Gee, of course no one has ever done anything adverse to such a pleasant person like yourself.
I didn’t know that corp. were forced to unionize.
Your ignorance can be cured by LEARNING.
I particularly enjoyed the scenes in “Mr. Selfridge” where the union organizer was angry and stormed off when he was told, “Well, we already have all the things you say you can get for us.”
Glad you enjoy watching public television.
In short they are ignorant, and require others who are also ignorant for strength.
But down in Australia we prefer to just think of him as one of the last solid good blokes left in your piece of shit Government — If you guys don’t do yourselves the favour of putting Bernie in charge then you’ll have demonstrated that you’re truly lost and theres no helping you – HELP YOURSELVES!
We need help?
You’re from Australia?! So why should we care what you think of Bernie Sanders. Didn’t you blokes also like the “great uniter”, Barry Obama, that has worsened race relations in the U.S. putting them at there worst since the early ’80’s?
So, go ruin your own country….
Newsflash John L. Greene…we are all on ONE PLANET and we effect each other.
The US isn’t Australia and I don’t have to obey their rules in my country. Luckily, I have the right to not have to listen to them or even you for that matter.
So, go hold hands and sing kumbaya in your own little circle jerk if you want but leave the rest of us alone
Socialism is gov’t owning means of production and it has never allowed for private success.
it’s not working well in Venezuela
http://www.theeuropean-magazine.com/andreas-kern–2/9706-the-collapse-of-socialism-in-venezuela
In a Democratic Socialist gov’t. there is plenty of room for allowing personal success..and still allowing the rest of the country to benefit from that success as well.
Do you have anything other than pejorative labels?
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
….#feelthebernout
Nate Silver is talking out his bumhole. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
same quote again… tired troll
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Reality sucks don’t it?
Same tired quote… one person’s opinion is not reality, it is still just his opinion. Look around you.. who has the enthusiasm and momentum? Hillary is done… it will be hard to campaign from prison.
You don’t know who Nate Silver is? You moron. Bernie is DONE.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
YOU BASEMENT DWELLING LOSER.
Bernie the UNELECTABLE DINO is DONE you DELUSIONAL MORON. HAHA
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Post your real info here and we will see how much reality sucks.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
poor widdle wing nut hates the truth
Extremists, LOL. I think the only one here out to lunch is yourself. Every policy position Bernie has is supported by the majority of American’s. Poll after Poll. If anything, Bernie is more mainstream than any candidate currently running for the office.
Bernie is an old unelectable moron you low info parasite.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Fell sorry for people like you. You are angry because you know you are wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
Posting some other person’s assumptions again.. no original thoughts of your own? What is wrong with you? Did your mother not hug you enough as a child? You are lucky that intelligent democratic voters are going to save you from your ignorant self.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Bernie bots=brain dead voters
You’re a joke. enough time wasted responding to your drivel… I am sure you will get your campaign check just the same.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Bernie’s DEMISE is coming you radical unhinged nut job.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
You are a basement dwelling troll being paid by the Bernie campaign. Bernie the DINO is DONE.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Bernie is an UNELECTABLE DINO extremist. He’s DONE you paid Bernie troll.
Do you think she cares about LGBTQ rights at all? Now who’s delusional? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
The only thing that Hillary Clinton cares about is power. As a gay man, I am horrified that anyone can think that she is a real ally. She will support the LGBT community so far as is required to further her agenda for power. There is nothing genuine about her.
Ugh, you’re everywhere posting the same thing. We don’t care what he has to say because they were saying he was unelectable at 4% in the polls and now that he’s at 43% in NH they still say the same thing. Everyone knows Hillary and she only really gets the sympathy vote. She isn’t going to get any new voters. But Bernie? People will move to him once they hear more about him because it has already been happening. So you can stand by your trolling efforts or whatever you’re doing here but at the end of the day, only one candidate really stands a chance and it’s not Hillary.
Don’t mind him, he’s a bot.
Actually, flag all of his comments.
Bernie is leading Clinton 66% to 30% in NH and he says it is still “very close”. The guy’s a moron. No worth arguing with.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Your OLD UNELECTABLE DINO is going to lose badly. hahah
NOPE child. Nate Silver JUST said BERNIE SANDERS IS THE ONLY ONE TO BEAT TRUMP.
Voting for HC is an endorsement for a REPUBLICAN.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/18/1471588/-Nate-Bernie-Sanders-is-the-only-candidate-in-either-party-with-a-net-positive-favorability-rating
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Nope wacko, Nate says that Bernie is TOAST. HAHAHAAHA
Voting for Bernie is voting for a right wing gun nut who voted with the NRA in against the Brady bill. Bernie is republican lite aka DINO.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
You have some reading comprehension issues here. That’s not what that article says at all. Nate Silver never said what you believe he said. The author of the article opined that BASED ON WHAT NATE SILVER SAID, the author believes that Bernie is the best chance to beat Trump.
In her eight years in the Senate, Hillary was ranked the ELEVENTH MOST LIBERAL Senator in Congress. Bernie? Even today, he’s ranked as the FORTY-FOURTH most liberal Senator. He’s little better than a Republican.
Oh, there’s also the little FACT that he’ll let churches who discriminate against the LGBT community KEEP their tax exempt status that should WORRY you.
Are you serious with that response? A church can discriminate against anyone it wants, at anytime, for any reason. There is no law in the land that could ever change that. It’s called separation of church and state. The federal or state government has no control over that and cannot remove tax exempt status because of it. Back to school for you. Wow, that was just…wow.
And as you’ll note I made no reference as to who the most liberal candidate was. I just mentioned that people keep calling him extreme and in reality he is mainstream. Meaning supported by the majority of American’s.
Is this really the best you can do? Sanders and Hillary aren’t far apart age wise.
Sanders is almost 80. He should be in a retirement home now.
she will turn her back on you as soon as she’s elected. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
Sanders at 74 is almost 80? Hillary at 68 is almost 80 too then…
Sanders is an 80 year old dino socialist. H’s an unaccomplished loser.
Yeah, H is an unaccomplished loser.. but Bernie is still 74.
Bernie is an 80 year old socialist. He’s DONE.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Except he’s won way more elections than Pantsuits. He’s been consistent with his political views way, way longer than Pantsuits. He’s not even a millionaire despite his years in Congress, while Pantsuits is a multi-millionaire with much of that money coming from Wall Street. Did you know she’s having a fundraiser a few days before the Iowa caucus on Wall Street. Keep an eye out for how much money gets donated to Bernie’s campaign today after this betrayal by HRC for HRC.
that’s because DINO SOCIALIST Bernie has been in D.C. for far too long. Hillary is going to knock Bernie’s fake teeth out. Hillary received over 18 million votes in 2008 you delusional ignorant loser. hahaha Bernie the DINO is TOAST. HAHAAH
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Reality is going to suk for you you mentally deranged Bernie bot. You get paid to post don’t you nut job?
Pantsuits? You’re not doing your candidate any favors with your casual misogyny. You’re better than that.
Only Tea Party extremists see “socialist” as a dirty word.
SEVEN YEARS APART, dumb-ass.
6. 74-68 = 6 Dumb-ass.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
#feelthebernout you delusional low info parasite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I she is lying to you now
You really are a piece of shit… running around pasted the same garbage on all the posts and insulting and name calling fellow democrats from the safety of your mom’s basement. Go away.
You really are garbage… running around pasting the same garbage on all the posts and insulting and name calling fellow democrats from the safety of your mom’s basement. Go away.
You Bernie bots are worthless subhuman scum,
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Idiot.
Go take your meds you unhinged Bernie bot.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
27 point lead in NH, dead heat in Iowa, Nevada is next. Suck it Hillsbian.
outlier
Bernie the DINO is DONE.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Don’t get too worked up over Nate Silver’s poll data for Iowa. He has Gravis marketing as part of his dataset, which is +21 Clinton. If you remove the Gravis result, it is a Bernie landslide.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/05/21/the_worst_poll_in_america.html
You clown, anyone can paste the same comment over and over.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Your fat worthless head WILL explode when you find out that UNELECTABLE DINO Bernie gets his fake teeth knocked out in the primaries. hahaahah
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Your UNELECTABLE DINO Bernie is gonna get “schlonged” and I will enjoy every minute of it because you Bernie bots heads WILL explode with anger. hahahaah
Don’t get too worked up over Nate Silver’s poll data for Iowa. He has Gravis marketing as part of his dataset, which is +21 Clinton. If you remove the Gravis result, it is a Bernie landslide.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/05/21/the_worst_poll_in_america.html
Right?
DINO Bernie is DONE you delusional POS PARASITE. HAHAAHAH
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
right moron? hahahaha
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary
BAD NEWS for your worthless UNELECTABLE DINO SOCIALIST. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHHA
Don’t get too worked up over Nate Silver’s poll data for Iowa. He has Gravis marketing as part of his dataset, which is +21 Clinton. If you remove the Gravis result, it is a Bernie landslide.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/05/21/the_worst_poll_in_america.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Suk it DELUSIONAL POS parasite. Bernie is DONE.
Disquss rules: https://help.disqus.com/customer/portal/articles/1753105-basic-rules-for-disqus-powered-profiles-and-discussions
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
jump off a bridge.
My, my, my, such a potty mouth. Does your mother know you talk like this?
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Say bye bye to unelectable DINO Bernie you delusional nut job. haahah
Reported here, to Disqus and to the FBI. Have a nice day
Flag his comments as spam.
You seem to be a bit of an idiot…..and that isn’t a good way to try to win anyone over to your side of an argument…..just saying…..frankly, it’s much more likely that a troll calling Bernie supporters “worthless, subhuman scum” is in fact the epitome of BEING worthless, subhuman scum….
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
You DELUSIONAL parasite. ahahah
I’ve flagged all of nero’s comments, I’m pretty sure he’s a spam bot.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Cannot take the truth huh Bernie bot?> tHE dino bernie is toast. cry all you want loser.
The Dino is smoking the criminal!
Don’t get too worked up over Nate Silver’s poll data for Iowa. He has Gravis marketing as part of his dataset, which is +21 Clinton. If you remove the Gravis result, it is a Bernie landslide.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/05/21/the_worst_poll_in_america.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Bernie the UNELECTABLE DINO is FINISHED you DELUSIONAL radical POS extremist. Want a tissue? hhhaahahah
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Bernie is getting smoked politically, unlike that good dead right wing parasite Andrew Breitbart. hahahaah
Gravis has been throwing the polling aggregates way off the charts to one side since day one. They have not been even remotely close to the rest of the polls; always showing Clinton miles ahead of where the rest of the polls show her. Always.
I’m still confused why people use Gravis, after they’ve been so RIDICULOUSLY off on so many elections for so many years now. Fivethirty eight still gives them a C, mostly because they do get enough right to average out their grade and because they call cell phones in some surveys now, but I’d disqualify them simply based on the fact that they have been off by more than THIRTY POINTS in more than one big election that most other polls got fairly close.
Or a paid troll. Or maybe even a Trump supporter. Bernie does better than Hillary against Trump in national polls. Which is still something.
Right. A Trump supporter. That’s why Karl Rove and other GOP operatives have just spent millions in Iowa attacking Clinton and the GOP was sending tweets during Sundays Dem debate defending Sanders… because they fear Sanders. Right. Keep telling yourself that one.
Is that all you’ve got? The regurgitated words of an establishment toady paid to maintain the status quo???
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary
Your DINO is DONE you DELUSIONAL moron. hahaahah
And Hillary is actually in much worse health reports seem to indicate…
You’re the one trolling here. The irony.
Your OLD DINO Bernie is FINISHED you DELUSIONAL UNHINGED PARASITE.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Sad little man you are, nero88888. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
You’re doing God’s work. I’m certain your eloquent, rational discourse will change every Bernie supporter’s mind. I know you’ve changed mine.
Or maybe you’re just ranting to make yourself feel good. In which case, whatever. Do you.
One day someone is going to beat the crap out of you and you will go crying to your mommy.
Go kill yourself you basement dwelling parasite.
If we get a little testy, it’s because we can’t understand those who would choose to reinstall the very people who helped to dismantle the middle class over these past 40 years.
I’m confused… the number of middle class people has expanded for 40 years. How is that dismantling? The only “poverty” measure which has gotten worse is the utilization of Food Stamps. It’s a travesty that Food Stamps are no longer stigmatized. Food Stamps were supposed to be a last resort, not a way of life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
You can see where that’s been BADLY edited.
where?
here? http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4535174/hillary-clinton-gay-marriage-2004
oh snap – it’s not edited, is it?
#feelthebern
I guess that is why every poll shows him beating Republicans by larger margins than Hillary. Sorry bud, but your Corporate shill is unelectable, and likely a criminal.
General election polls this far out are meaningless. The vast majority of people haven’t paid enough attention to know that he intends to raise their taxes. Once he said that he made himself completely unelectable.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-year-out-ignore-general-election-polls/
Hillary supporters cannot continue to perpetuate this myth that he is unelectable. He has better opinion poll numbers, even if they are early. His integrity and trust index numbers are through the roof, Hillary’s are on the floor. There is no way that Hillary can beat a republican, especially with this indictment hanging over her head. Bernie is running a respectful campaign and has not gone negative. He easily could, and then would be destroying Hillary. Do you think that the Republicans would treat her and her foundation with kid gloves the way that Bernie has? She will be painted as the treasonous liar that she is.
How old are you? Socialism and I’ll raise your taxes means no winning in the general election. Welcome to the USA and no amount of explanation that he is actually a “Democratic Socialist” is going to change that.
How old are you? Obviously too old to appretiate the honesty and integrity that he brings to the process. You think that a person with a criminal indictment hanging over their head has a better chance to be elected than the most consistent and honest person in politics? Wow.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
GOP wants to run against your OLD, UNELECTABLE DINO SOCIALIST BECAUSE Bernie would get slaughtered in a general election. You are just a low information parasite who was born brain dead.
Thank you, Hillary
The preferred spelling is Berniebot, just so you know. AND thank you for the compliment. The more I watch people who should know better bend over and kiss Hillary’s arse as payment to play the game, the more I appreciate being associated with people who can actually think.
Inevitable huh? You are backing a dead horse my friend!
Oh look it’s the child again….you are just a silly broken record.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE….MOVE ALONG. CHILDREN AT PLAY.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Does the truth upset you Bernie bot?
Sanders may be both of those things, but that doesn’t mean someone can’t agree with him or why doing so makes them a “bot.” That’s just lazy on your part.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-19/republican-operatives-are-trying-to-help-bernie-sanders
Oh right, the operatives…
*backs away slowly*
Go fuck yourself dumbass! You have NO clue who or what Sanders is as you have not bothered to actually listen to anything he has had to say. You are an ignorant despot who has no idea who supports your cause and has been supporting your many causes for far longer than HRC has been an actual Democrat. Oh and for the record HRC is only 5 years younger than Sanders and he is still running circles around her. Back to the shallow end of the gene pool fool!
hillary clinton is 68, bernie sanders is 74. I wouldn’t expect someone with a comment like yours to be able to understand math but if we’re going to talk about “old” that’s an age difference of 8 years. roughly what a typical candidate ends up being in office for.
Bernie is OLD. He’s DONE.
Who fiddled while Rome burned? Nero. Now whose fiddling while D.C. burns? Nero88888.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
#feelthebernout hahhaha
And you’re a delusional sycophant for supporting more status quo.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Yes, everyone is supposed to die at 30. What a childish remark.
Yeah, socialism is a un-American as public schools, social security, medicare, highways/public road, public libraries, the police, fire department, postal service, student loans/grants, garbage collection, farm subsidies, museums, public parks, veterans’ healthcare, food stamps, the judicial system, various vaccines that have been given out during epidemics, free lunch programs, disability insurance, unemployment insurance, WIC, welfare, National Public Radio, Peace Corps, and the military. Only extremists would like such things. We should abolish all of it!
Don’t criticize his age, not applicable. In fact, don’t throw stones at the people who believe in Bernie.
Bernie is a DINO LOSER.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/01/trump-keeps-gaining-in-nc-clinton-maintains-huge-lead.html
Come out, come out where ever you are. Explain what you are to the “unhinged” , “bots” out here.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/20/1472601/-NC-Clinton-59-Sanders-26-WOW
Cry all you want bernie bot. hahaha
“Old” isn’t a criticism. If measured, age is a number. Bernie is not unelectable – at least according to all the polls, he would be the far-and-away dominant Democratic candidate. Hillary would be expected to have an even fight, at least according to the polls. That too is just math. Bernie’s enthusiastic following is not composed of “bots” – just empassioned, forward-thinking (i.e. progressive) patriots. Passion and patriotism are certainly not “disgusting.” “Unhinged” implies instability, but Bernie’s supporters have proven the most loyal and grounded in their reasons for supporting their candidate. On the other hand Hillary’s supporters are jumping ship – for Bernie’s political revolution – en masse. And “extremists” – well that might be fair in the sense that the people’s campaign is in fact arguing for a fundamental shift in our dysfunctional, inefficient, rigged, and often cruelly unjust political system. And in any case, why such hostility friend? Free debate of ideas is the core of American ideals and the highest among freedoms. Perhaps your interest in politics has more to do with finding a representative that affirms your pre-existing stances? The world is a changin’ friend. Better to contribute to steering it, or at least not be severed from one’s root by the tide, than to remain fixed to the gone world. Lastly, in a world where there is plenty of wealth, food, and joy to go around; why not work for fair distribution of happiness and the resources that make happiness possible. When those goals are pursued by collective decision making – that’s democratic socialism. And democratic socialism is the new American identity. But then, I’m probably just enjoying myself wasting time under the guise of engaging a troll.
What “Socialism” really is? Watch this and educate yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQqRHNR6lOw
And this!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PheA4BPXQzg
RUN by the corrupt ESTABLISHMENT POLITICS indeed!
http://www.back2stonewall.com/2014/09/hrc-prez-chad-giffins-2013-salary-507000-00-stealing-credit-rewriting-history-pays-well.html
As a Trans woman, I’m still feeling the Bern! And I am not even American! Bernie is the type of ideal honest and compassionate politician every country deserves and need!!
Planned parenthood and HRC are indeed part of the establishment, but only **in the sense** that they are tied to establishment politics and they feel obligated to endorse establishment politicians. Hillary and her campaign (including the executives in planned parenthood and HRC) are purposely taking what Bernie said out of context to attack him disingeneously, as they always do.
What REALLY is Socialism? Educate yourself before you judge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQqRHNR6lOw
And THIS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PheA4BPXQzg
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/20/1472601/-NC-Clinton-59-Sanders-26-WOW
Bernie is an OLD DINO LOSER. HAHAAH
As a Trans woman, I’m still feeling the Bern! And I am not even American! Bernie is the type of ideal honest and compassionate politician every country deserves and need!!
Planned parenthood and HRC are indeed part of the establishment, but only **in the sense** that they are tied to establishment politics and they feel obligated to endorse establishment politicians. Hillary and her campaign (including the executives in planned parenthood and HRC) are purposely taking what Bernie said out of context to attack him disingeneously, as they always do.
Wow Bernie and his team are now trashing the Human rights campaign.. not COOL!!!
Hillary is the best choice for POTUS!
Since when is criticizing “trashing”? Get a grip on yourself!
Sorry they FEEL that way, but the facts don’t support the claims of the Sanders campaign.
So now even the Bernie campaign starts bashing people and organizations who prefer Hillary? If this is their idea of how democracy works I want no part of Bernie Sanders and his agenda.
They have been doing that all along, Chummy. Every endorsement Hillary gets, the Bernie Tots flood their social media and whine whine whine. Honestly, Sanders supporters are a primary reason that I cant vote for the man. They are immature angry white children, and I wouldnt want anyone to think that I agree with such nasty people
LOL, cat meet kettle…
POT, meet Kettle, MORON.
Wow, how grown up you are, calling people names. I bet you feel real big right now… You might want to actually know what you are talking about before you try to call people out though.
Cat, meet kettle is another term used, not as popular as pot, meet kettle, but it still applies none the less.
I agree. Sanders is a very decent man. Some of his followers worry me. They are strident, rigid, and unwilling to consider a different viewpoint and even take moralistic stands on questions of strategy.
Then I guess you’ll be votoing Republican in November.
Are you voting for a candidate or some loud Internet trolls? Your reasoning is equally childish.
You come across the same way, actually. The irony is huge here.
If the primary reason you choose your candidate is the type of supporters, you really have a weak wat of picking who to vote for.
Kathy Hutchinson is right. Every single endorser of Hillary has their FB sites swarmed with nasty name-calling and sometimes even threatening comments from hate-filled Sanders fans. It’s totally juvenile and disgusting. If you compare Hillary’s endorser sites to Bernie’s endorser sites, you’ll see the difference in how hate-filled and disgusting Bernie’s supporters are and have been all during this campaign. They want to control EVERYONE…just like Bernie wants everything HIS way or NO WAY. THAT is why I’m voting Hillary Clinton…she at least is willing to admit when she’s wrong, and is willing to negotiate and compromise in order to get things done. Sanders has a history of NOT working with others…that’s why he has no support from his Democratic colleagues in the Senate that have known him for many years.
I support Sanders and have found such people in forums of Sanders supporters. They go by the motto: Bernie or Bust. Many of his supporters, myself among them, argue against their pig headedness. Bernie does not advocate this. He chose to run as a Democrat so not to divide the party but these people exist in a cyberspace that has no control over such behavior.
I agree. Even Bernie supporters dislike nasty Bernie supporters. But you know, I’ve seen the same on Hillary’s side too as well as every candidate in this election. There are nice and respectful people and there are haters.
Or because Hillary is far more popular and half of them endorsed her before he even announced his run. Hillary supporters act the same way whenever a poll comes out saying Bernie is winning in a state, or when Bernie comes out with a proposal they do not like and call him names. I do not support Bernie trolls, but it’s clear that many of her endorsements come from close connections with the leaders of the cause or campaign. That is just a plain fact.
We have to acknowledge the fact that there are radical people on all sides of the aisle and for all candidates. None of the candidates act as some of their supporters do.
Now, I do have some concern regarding this endorsement considering Chad Griffin, the President of the HRC worked in the White House for the Clinton Administration. http://www.hrc.org/chad/
This fact confirms bias in the voting process.
Bashing? Since when is it out of bounds to criticize a decision by any organization?
It makes him look petty and intimidated.
He has a reputation for being an impatient, ill-tempered man. This has been noted over the years by numerous co-workers and journalists. Uncle Bernie is a facade. His ideology is very appealing, but there is no wand he can wave to suddenly make these “Revolutionary” changes happen. He’s speaking in platitudes and cannot provide the details on implementation.
He’s just as much of an empty suit as Trump, and his supporters are equally as obnoxious.
‘Bashing’ and ‘Blasting’ are words used by yourself and the paper. They’re not accurate representations of the quotes shown in the article. They’re used to incite bias. You want to dismiss Bernie, and the paper wants to draw eyes to their paper.
Hillary used some unnecessary and sweeping rhetoric in 2006 which clearly shows her defense of DOMA. No one made her say something so anti equal rights. That was her choice. She’s disingenuous
See LAGuy323’s quote from Hillary below …
That sounds more to me that he felt like he lacked the political capital to do so more than the drive or desire.
Precisely what the Clintons did. You must be one of those baby Bernie Tots who wasnt of voting age in the 90’s. Dont ask , Dont Tell, was Bill Clintons attempt to help gays in the military, in the face of extreme anti gay sentiment in our culture. The “moral majority” were at full strength in the 90’s. Focus on the Family, Pat RObertson, Tony Perkins, etc, etc, were all urging republicans to introduce a constitutional ammendment to defend hetero marriage. Most average Americans did not agree with same sex marriage in the 90;s although liberals did think civil unions were the way to go. Everyone has evolved on this issue, Sanders included. Sometimes, you cant make what you want to happen come true, because you have to address the concerns of the majority. I think if Sanders were, by some miraculous stroke of fate, every to win the Presidency, we would see the same thing with his “Universal Health care ” thing. He would not be able to pass it because of the extreme fight we have had on Obamacare. That wouldnt make him a flip flopper, any more than it makes Clinton one for not supporting full gay marriage in the 90’s.
True. This is the United States of Bribery, which is what Bernie intends to end as the sole enforcer of “democracy”.
You are being deliberately disingenuous, and have been all over the place SophieCT.
Bernie Sanders answers the gay marraige question in the 2006 Senate debate (not against it)
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4548262/sanders-gay-marriage
She’s a desperate Hillsbian
“Hillsbian”… love it and gonna use it
“I believe marriage is not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman. I have had occasion in my life to defend marriage, to stand up for marriage, to believe in the hard work and challenge of marriage. So I take umbrage at anyone who might suggest that those of us who worry about amending the Constitution are less committed to the sanctity of marriage, or to the fundamental bedrock principle that it exists between a man and a woman, going back into the midst of history as one of the founding, foundational institutions of history and humanity and civilization, and that its primary, principal role during those millennia has been the raising and socializing of children for the society into which they are to become adults.”– Hillary Clinton 2004. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
This happened because of the leadership of Bernie Sanders starting in 1983.
Yes, I’m sure the LGBT community had nothing to do with it, no leaders, no brave people willing to come out at a time when it was dangerous, no involvement at all.
I will never forget where I was and what I was doing the day Bernie freed the Gays.
Well, I have just watched again Hillary’s stance on YouTube Gay Marriage in 2004. She clearly stated she was against marriage equality. If you have no idea about Senator Sanders’ positions, you can find extensive information on berniesanders.com. I have been a volunteer all of my life and now volunteer with the Bernie Sanders campaign. Happy to report that I am surrounded by professional, thoughtful, and dedicated volunteers who only think about the future of our country, the need for social change, the hardships folks are in and the solutions we must adopt. You might also want to find out progressive news on freespeechtv.com by watching Thom Hartmann.
And how many opinions have you revised in the last TWELVE years, Ann? If you claim you’ve made it through more than a decade without looking deep and revisiting old issues and your stance on them as new experiences and information comes your way, you’re a sociopath or a liar.
How old were you in 2004? Do you not know that the Democrats got killed that election, because Karl Rove used the boogeyman of gay marriage to drive conservatives to the polls? You want everyone to be a purist no matter how many elections they lose.
Your post (source and date, pelase) doesn’t refute the Sanders’ campaign. Adn if you had done your homework you’d know that Hillary also opposed a constitutional amendment regarding gay/lesbian marriage. But her actual opposition to gay/lesbian marriage is longstanding, unlike Sanders, and she only changed this position in 2013c leading up to this campaign. Madam Flip-Flop.
NYT, December 9, 1999:
“Mrs. Clinton’s spokesman, Howard Wolfson, said that the first lady, like her husband, supported legislation passed by Congress in 1996 that effectively banned gay marriages.”
January 2000, news conference, White Plains, NY.
“Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back
to the beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage has
always been, between a man and a woman.”
July 2004: Speaking on the Senate floor Clinton said she
believed that marriage was “a sacred bond between a man and a woman.”
2008: Hillary opposed gay/lesbian marriage throughout the campaign and would only support “civil unions”.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/
Hillary’s total record far exceeds Bernie’s total record. You don’t have to take my word for it–HRC endorsed Hillary, not him.
The President of the HRC worked in the White House for the Clinton Administration. There is obvious bias which cannot be ignored here.
Yup, it was a board vote. I dare them to take the vote to their membership.
I won’t take your word for it because I know better. And we know WHY HRC endorsed her despite her poor record, beause it was an “inside job”.
The HRC also gave Bernie a 100% rating in 2006.
Hillary’s total record is one of fucking up everything she has touched… around the world. She has no record of accomplishment; 1 (1!) shoo-in election… and then did nothing, except vote to invade Iraq and keep the banks afloat.
What do you mean that “Hillary’s total record far exceeds Bernie’s total record”??? Record on WHAT? Gay rights? Definitely NOT!
Bullshit!
Also, Hillary is the only candidate that provided real and tangible benefits to us.
Sec. Clinton directed the State Department’s equal employment opportunity policy to “explicitly protect against discriminatory treatment of employees and job applicants based on gender identity.”
Sec. Clinton updated State Department policy to offer equal benefits and protections to same-sex partners of American diplomats.
Hillary is a calculating shill. If she stuck her finger out and the winds seemed to say that it were better to stick gays, lesbians, and transgender people in concentration camps, she’d probably sign on. I’ve never seen an ounce of principle in her.
Well, that’s your opinion and you’re entitled. In fact, really entitled.
Oh, caravan, give the hyperbole a rest, you big drama queen.
Anyone who supports Hillary must also support:
the TTP (which she helped draft and sell around the world),
Common Core (which she kickstarted back in the 80’s),
fracking (which she sold around the world),
Monsanto,
private prisons and mass incarceration (the private sectors idea of “new job growth”),
neoliberalism, (which believes in the privatization of the public sector)
installing fascist leaders (Honduras),
assassinating world leaders (Libya),
fomenting chaos that gives rise to groups like ISIS,
perpetual wars (that we never win),
arming countries on the human rights watch list for human (women and girls) trafficking,
global corporate governance over democratic nations and the eventual dissolution of the Constitution (which the TPP, TTIP and TISA are designed to do)…
Sorry, not my idea of what a female president or any president should be.
Naomi Wolf Says Hillary Clinton Is A Pro Police State War Monger Owned By War Profiteers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5tta7YQc6g&feature=youtu.beM
What plum appointment in a third Clinton administration does Chad Griffin hope to score, if Hillary is elected to the White House again?
Don’t you just love Bernards supporters & his staffers ever time an endorsement doesn’t go their way.
They flip out and become rabid. They are extremists.
You might feel a bit perturbed too if HRC endorsed Jeb Bush over Hillary. Bernie has a FAR better record of fighting for gay rights. Clinton? Not so much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iTrqHvTk_0
No, he doesn’t. Anyone familiar with the history of both would clearly see she has a better record.
You might need to familiarize yourself with history then.
Hillary Same Sex Marriage history: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/
Bernie’s: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/sep/29/chuck-todd/nbcs-chuck-todd-bernie-sanders-there-same-sex-marr/
You’re right, 3 years of championing LGBT Rights certainly trumps a lifetime of doing-so…
I’d like to see a citation for this claim. We both know that isn’t true.
ORLY? Bernie Sanders has a strong, bold, very extensive track record of supporting gay rights dating back 40 years . In a letter he published in the early 1970’s, when he was a candidate for governor of Vermont from the Liberty Union Party, Sanders invoked freedom to call for the abolition of all laws related to homosexuality http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/bernie-sanders-was-full-gay-equality-40-years-ago
In 1983, as Mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Bernie threw in his full support for a highly controversial gay pride march in the city http://www.queerty.com/32-years-before-marriage-equality-bernie-sanders-fought-for-gay-rights-20150719
Bernie proclaimed Gay Pride Day in Burlington 2 years later in 1985 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/03/1398990/-Important-document-from-the-desk-of-Mayor-Bernie-Sanders-1985
He fought against the discriminatory DOMA (that first lady Hillary Clinton supported) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/why-bernie-sanders-must-t_b_8135236.html Bernie verbally blasted a conservative bigot on the House floor who didn’t want “homos in the military” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP7Oqp5j8fc
Bernie wanted to add full civil rights in housing, employment and public accommodation for LGBT people to the 1964 Civil Rights Act http://www.washingtonblade.com/2015/05/15/sanders-touts-lgbt-record-in-white-house-bid/
Bernie didn’t call marriage “a sacred bond between a man and a woman as a bedrock principle” on the Senate floor unlike some, or wait to support Civil Unions until 2010, or hold off on standing strong for LGBT Marriage Equality until 2013. He has always been a consistent champion of LGBT rights. http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-lgbtq-rights/
They were simply responding to an endorsement. I don’t know how long you’ve followed politics, but that’s pretty much par for the course.
No, it’s not. In fact, even Ted Cruz (spit) has more class than Bernie. This is Ted’s response when he heard Trump was getting Palin’s endorsement.
LOL, seriously, Ted Cruz is holding out for the Trump supporters if they jump ship.
Are you serious? So how big of a Palin fan were you?
I am done with Bernie. Before he ran most gays never heard his name. Now you wanna claim just because you have these positions you are better? WTF. I will trust the HRC as they have been instrumental in helping gay rights in society and workplaces. Most companies strive for a perfect rating these days. Bernie and his cult followers need to take a step back. You look childish.
It’s possible for an organization to do great work and still mess up an endorsement. This could just be a result of insider connections though: “HRC President Chad Griffin got his start in politics volunteering for the Bill Clinton presidential campaign, which led to a position in the White House Press Office at the age of 19. Following his stint in the White House and his graduation from Georgetown University, he led a number of political campaigns advocating for or against various California ballot initiatives, as well as a number of fundraising efforts for political candidates, such as Hillary Clinton” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Griffin
As for Bernie, his track record IS well known:
In 1983, as Mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Bernie threw in his full support for a highly controversial gay pride march in the city http://www.queerty.com/32-years-before-marriage-equality-bernie-sanders-fought-for-gay-rights-20150719
Bernie proclaimed Gay Pride Day in Burlington 2 years later in 1985 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/03/1398990/-Important-document-from-the-desk-of-Mayor-Bernie-Sanders-1985
It was a board vote. The membership didn’t vote. I’m certain the outcome would be different.
Just keep on living with your head in the sand….
Bernie Sanders has always been a leader for LGBT equality.
The fact you are insulting Bernie supporters right back makes your case sound weak.
“I will trust the HRC as they have been instrumental in helping gay rights in society and workplaces.” Then you should trust the fact that the HRC have given Bernie a 100% rating on issues regarding LGBT rights. http://www.hrc.org/elected-officials/profile/senate/92#.Vp6nvfkrLmE
Bernie bashing Human Rights Campaign is dirty vile and mean spirtied
The HRC dropping support for trans* inclusion in pivotal pieces of legislation is “dirty vile and mean spirtied”.
Hillary is the candidate who cares! We NEED her in the White House. I believe that she will win! 2016 and 2020!
God, let’s hope not. What a corporate shill.
Cares about herself. You are the pawn and pawns are expendable.
LOL. And the mindless mob that grovels at Sanders’ feet aren’t pawns?
Actually, we aren’t the pawns. We won’t get tossed to the side when the Queen gets in trouble. We are the Knights, Rooks and Bishops strategically being placed around the board in support of our King.
LOL, sorry, I had to go there. I was laughing as I was writing it.
They endorsed the right candidate who has shown that she is capable of evolving on the issue as did the Party and the POTUS. She has been forthwith describing her evolution on the issue. However, Sanders cloaked and feigned support on the surface. Stripping away the layers revealed that his support was primarily due to supporting the issue as a “states rights issue’ not of one cemented in genuine care, concern or evolution of his attitudes, acceptance, and understanding of those in the LGBTQ community.
You are misinformed:
Bernie Sanders has a strong, bold, very extensive track record of supporting gay rights dating back 40 years . In a letter he published in the early 1970’s, when he was a candidate for governor of Vermont from the Liberty Union Party, Sanders invoked freedom to call for the abolition of all laws related to homosexuality http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/bernie-sanders-was-full-gay-equality-40-years-ago
In 1983, as Mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Bernie threw in his full support for a highly controversial gay pride march in the city http://www.queerty.com/32-years-before-marriage-equality-bernie-sanders-fought-for-gay-rights-20150719
Bernie proclaimed Gay Pride Day in Burlington 2 years later in 1985 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/03/1398990/-Important-document-from-the-desk-of-Mayor-Bernie-Sanders-1985
“Evolved” on the issue? That’s BS. Sanders has displayed support for many years. Hillary would sell her mother for a few votes if necessary. She’s only a “supporter” of LGBTQ rights because it’s politically expedient.
Bernie bots are becoming more and more extreme and unhinged when they don’t get their way. Your UNELECTABLE SOCIALIST is FINISHED.
Dream on, nero.
Bernie the OLD DINO is getting CRUSHED in the primaries. Embrace the suck you DELUSIONAL low info parasite.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
You Bernie bots are the ones who need to dream. Your socialist DINO IS FINISHED. HAHA
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Nothing new to say, nero? It appears that you are the one unhinged.
You Bernie bots are unhinged DELUSIONAL EXTREMISTS. Bernie is DONE you low info parasite.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
You’re the one who has made tons of trolling comments. The evidence is on this entire page. Troll elsewhere, you’re worse than most Republicans on the Fox News fan page.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Bernie the UNELECTABLE DINO is DONE. ;)
I laugh at you. Hah!
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
I will be laughing when Bernie the UNELECTABLE DINO gets crushed in the primaries. haha
Sanders’ ignorant claim that civil unions and domestic partnerships are akin to same sex marriage is patently offensive.
We *do not* forget his record. in 2006, he supported state-based discrimination that was outlawed by the U.S. Supreme Court as unconstitutional.
The biggest difference between him and Clinton on this matter is Hillary is at least willing to admit when she was wrong. He still tries to defend and deflect his inexcusable record instead admitting he was wrong. Fess up, Bernie.
http://www.washingtonblade.com/2015/10/27/sanders-defends-2006-opposition-to-same-sex-marriage/
Yeah Hillary really has your back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYjIcrJB_Cc
Bernie is an OLD, unelectable DINO and his fans are utter delusional morons.
How about go fuck yourself, Emperor Nero?
He’s five years older than Hillary. I’d say that your political education is woefully inadequate.
5 years is ALOT when you’re staring at 80 on your next milestone birthday!
said no one about the founding fathers– ever.
Such pathetic stereotyping is of no worth. That Sanders taps into the passions of Americans age 45 and younger says it all.
I completely agree that Sanders has tapped into the “passion” of some voters. He rails against the biggest problems we face as a nation.
But he doesn’t offer solutions that have a snowballs chance in hell of getting enacted in law. He doesn’t compromise. It is all or nothing for him. He voted against Comprehensive Immigration Reform CIR because it has to many H1b visas! He is willing to throw the baby out with the bath water.
sure sure, I don’t want an old, angry socialist for president. Reagan had dementia in his 2nd term!
My mom is 89 and her mind is as sharp as ever. At 87 Vin Scully remains the best sports announcer in the business. One of my best friends died at age 46. There are no guarantees and stereotyping is for weak minds at all ages.
I’m sorry that Bernie is an angry, old socialist, what do you want from me? your mom, Vin Scully and one of your best friends are not going to be president of these great, United States. Cmon!
You are clearly incapable of simple logic. Must I spell it out? Just because Bernie Sanders is 74 there is no guarantee or proof that he is likely to have dementia within the next 8 years. There is also no proof or guarantee that Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump or even Marco Rubio will remain healthy over the next 8 years.
According to US News and World Report, 13.5% of people between 80 and 84 have Dementia. So yes, there is a small possibility but even if Sanders was a one term president, he is far better than anyone else running and far more in touch with the youth than anyone.
You are clearly unhinged if you think Bernie is going to win.
You Berniebots and your fuzzy math. Bernie is SEVENTY-FIVE; Hillary is SIXTY-SEVEN. How does that equal “five years”?
Morons.
Moron.
Bernie Sanders 74
HIllary Clinton 68
Bernie is almost 80 years old. He’s been in D.C. for 30 yeas and has accomplished NOTHING. He’s a loser.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
He isn’t a criminal. How long before the indictment comes down? Even if they don’t indict her, can she be trusted as President? Imagine how much her foundation could earn if she is elected! What a joke.
Indictment? that’s a right wing talking point. Bernie can go back to writing essays about his rape fantasies after he gets crushed in the primaries.
He’s a DINO GUN NUT.
Seventy four is “almost 80”??? WTF is your problem? That must mean Hell ery is “almost 74”!
What does age have to do with it anyway, it’s health that matters, and Bernie is healthy as a horse! Hillary has brain damage from her concussion a few years ago.
It’s pretty sad when idiots don’t even google something as simple as their age. Thanks nater21 for setting these boneheads straight. And who cares anyway. Some people have a better quality of life and live longer, healthier and more aware. Its an individual thing. Bernie is damn sharp for his age.
On top of that, Hillary suffers from feinting spells and various medical conditions that she won’t admit to. As much as a hate to say it, the “inevitable” candidate for the Democrats is a huge fraud. You can’t even trust her to control wall street with its money lining her pockets…
Horseshit. If anyone suffers from FAINTING spells, it’s Senator Asshole. He nearly PASSED OUR several times on Sunday night.
Oh, and here’s something you MIGHT want to consider: Karl Rove is the “creator” of that moronic “Feel the Bern” slogan you bots keep slinging about.
He’s almost 80 years old you clueless ignorant parasite.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Sad sad to see you fighting for the criminal running for POTUS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
DINO, that’s rich. Yeah, he’s a DINO because he is an Independent. He is more of a democrat than the majority of party democrats in congress and the White House.
He’s republican lite AKA a DINO. Why did Bernie the gun nut vote with the NRA against the Brady bill 5 times? Bernie the DINO is FINISHED.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
If you would just read why he voted against the Brady bill, you’d get it. But I forgot, you can’t read, can you? Sucks for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
He voted AGAINST the brady bill 5 times because he is a DINO GUN NUT you ignorant low info parasite.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
How old are you?
I will take an older honest canidate, before a liar.
Bernie is a pathological liar and a gun nut who voted with the NRA in against the Brady bill. Your DINO Bernie is an OLD UNELECTABLE lose with no accomplishments. haha
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Geez, you are embarrassing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
thousands of Americans have died because of DINO Bernie voting against the Brady bill you worthless POS.
BERNIE is a “pathological liar and gun nut”?????
OMG, You are SO fucking funny!!! You are seriously cracking me up! Bernie is the most HONEST and straightforward candidate, probably EVER!
Delusional is reinstalling the same people who were part of the dismantling of the middle class over these past 40 years.
LOL… who couldn’t find their way out of the bathroom??
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Bernie the OLD DINO is FINISHED. HAHAHA Embrace the suk you low info parasite.
“embrace the suk”? How original. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Embrace the suck Bernie bot.
You already did that one asshole. I see you c/p’d your other response below. No one is listening… go away.
Go read the facts, man. …you can read, can’t you? Seems like you are just copying and pasting the same thing over and over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
human rights campaign endorsed Hillary, not Bernie. Go cry some more you pathetic loser.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
you dumb ignorant low info brain dead Bernie bot. Does the truth upset you?
How about some FACTS nero88888, as opposed to ignorant name calling???
go take your meds paid bernie bot troll.
You’re funny. You have absolutely NOTHING of substance to say! The only thing you know how to do is IGNORANT name calling! Calling everyone else names is ignorant in itself, but you don’t even have any facts to even *debate* Hillary vs. Bernie! You don’t even have an argument as to why you think Hillary is better (there are no real ones but at least SOME people attempt to provide some sort of REASON why they believe Hillary is better. You’ve got NOTHING. You’re just an idiot and every time you post, you make that more clear to EVERYONE here.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Your head is gonna explode when you find out that your OLD, UNELECTABLE DINO gets crushed in the primaries. You low info paid Bernie bot troll.
Don’t even bother trying to reason with that person. He’s a troll with no life just trying to get a rise out of people. Quite patethic kind of life.
You are a delusional moron. That is a fact.
ANOTHER great endorsement for Hillary. These Bernie supporters are delusional unhinged extremists.
Time for the doctors to roll you in for another shock treatment, nero.
You are a radical extremist. Your fat head WILL explode when your 80 year old socialist dino goes down hard in the primaries.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
wow, Clinton’s staff is out in full force here. lol
The behavior of these Bernie supporters is the main reason why more and more people are getting turned off from unelectable DINO Bernie. Bernie is getting CRUSHED in the primaries.
I have noticed. It has changed my mind on Bernie Sanders. These people are just as horrible and disrespectful as Republicans. I guess left wingers don’t believe manners and respect have a place in society.
If you’re not a “left-winger,” you’re not a Democrat. It’s moderates who are DINOs.
Sanders is collecting the equivalent of the Teaparty…but from the left…pure and simple…radicals and a large number of them are anarchists.
Can you name some?
They are exactly like the Paulites.
They are paid delusional trolls.
You must just be a pleasant person in real life. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you type anything positive or of substance.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Hillary Clinton is a flip-flopper to the Nth degree: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/
Actually that is how I see Senator Sanders. I switched to Hillary on the last debate because of his refusal to ever admit he makes mistakes. I checked his record on guns and she was correct, it’s terrible. Very disappointed that he has not recanted those votes. I am also disgusted that he said just last month that there will not be any other proposed increases in middle class taxes other than the 1.61 per week for his family leave plan and then he says oops here is more on my health plan. Where is the next rise coming. He has a lot of big plans to raise the budget by trillions. Just don’t trust the man. I think he is selling us snake oil and making promises he cannot possibly keep and he knows it.
He didn’t make a mistake on the gun issue. He has never wavered from the reason as to why he voted the way he did. A store who sells a gun to someone (LEGALLY) shouldn’t be held responsible for what someone does with that gun. Should we hold TOYOTA liable for a crash that involved the death of someone by a Camry? NO we shouldn’t. That is why he voted the way he did…
And if you do your research on the “tax” increase you would see, yes, your taxes MIGHT rise 2% but save you thousands in the long run. You actually will save more in the long run per year by not paying anymore deductibles, premiums, etc.. So in actuality you SAVE MORE MONEY…
Please research before blindly believing the mud that Hillary is throwing
That tax increase he’s proposing is not going to come close to giving people all he’s promising them…are you kidding me?? Full dental, vision and hearing…nursing homes…everything medical that can possibly be needed, plus all medical equipment and supplies, etc etc etc? My dentures alone cost over $20,000…do you think the state budgets are going to be able to take on around 15 % of all those costs when their budgets are strained now?? It’s totally ludicrous…he’s spewing fairy dust and all of you believing it to be possible are as crazy as he is!!
You’re assuming costs for all of those things would stay the same. Every other country with a single payer heath care system has lowered costs for all medical products and services.
Well I’m glad your degree in economics came in handy. Your rates are based upon your private insurance companies, who do their very best, every single day, to bang you as hard as humanly possible. 7 dollars/month for paid medical leave and a 2.2% tax will actually SAVE you money because you’re no long paying those private premiums. THINK, ffs. 29 million people don’t have health care, get out of your bubble.
Linda, we used to have that exact kind of health care, about 20-30 years ago. I got a tubal ligation done for free. It’s not until the SCOTUS passed Citizens United and gave corporations all that power, that we have seen such a decline. It’s not fairy dust, it’s real. It’s taking the power back away from the insurance companies who are taking our money and buying bigger mansions, and putting it back into taking care of people. Other countries do it. We are allowing these same corporations to not have to pay their fair share of taxes, while we as the middle class take the hit. So, if you think that readjusting things back to a healthier way for all the citizens involved and out of the hands of corporations is crazy…then fine, I’ll take it. We can also take a lot of the pork we spend on the military budget and put it into healthcare, roads etc. etc. It is possible. Sorry you can’t see it!
I hope you don’t get your hopes up. I’ve read at least half a dozen expert analyses that have proven his plan is unsustainable and the costs would be at least double his figures. Doesn’t matter though…it’ll never pass through congress. He’s put a similar plan up 9 different times and he’s gotten zero backers for it.
Danipwils, you are exactly right!
1) It’s weird that you think Bernie Sanders is selling “snake oil”. I’ve known him even before his bid for president. I know for a fact he’s for the American people.
2) Could you provide me a source where he said he “wouldn’t raise taxes”? He definitely said from the very beginning there would be a slight increase in taxes for the middle class.
3) Did you ACTUALLY look at his gun record? http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders/37/guns#.Vp6OtJMrLMU
The tax increases and payroll taxes are separate. There will be tax increases on households making 250K+. That income range is not considered middle class.
Second, there is a 2.2% payroll tax, but that is offset by elimination of your health insurance premiums. Please read his plans more carefully.
You mean the 12 pages total he’s scribbled down under great pressure to account for his promises?
bias… bias everywhere
And Sanders fans won’t think…
So your argument is he flipped on three things so therefore Hillary isn’t a flip-flopper? She’s flipped on far more things than Bernie.
She will say anything when it’s politically expedient to do so.
https://youtu.be/SXXeEzCdhnE
Bernie flipped on guns. Bernie is a flip flopping liar.
Hillary has flip flopped on gay rights, Iraq war, TTP, marijuana legalization, and pretty much EVERYTHING that might not win her the vote at the moment! BERNIE has been incredibly consistent over the four decades he has served the people.
He is the ONLY honest and genuine candidate on either side. Please show us ANYTHING that Bernie has lied about. Ever.
Bernie is a flip flopping LIAR.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
The HRC made this decision from the top. They didn’t poll members or go by the candidates record. Chad Griffin is the president of HRC. He got his start at 19, campaigning for Bill Clinton. He then was given a job in the white house. He now is a political fundraiser for Hilary. -Things that make you say “now I get it! “
Totally makes sense now. An inside job -go figure! No members polled. Same as what the LCV did – didn’t poll the members.
Same as planned parenthood too. All the organizations that poll end up supporting Bernie, all the ones decided by the board support Hilary. It’s sad but it only proves she is bought and paid for.
Show me where PP polls end up supporting Bernie. I fear you made this “fact” up out of thin air.
And where was Bernie on the vote to defund Planned Parenthood? Rubio and Paul were there. 99 Senators were there actually. One was missing… Sanders. He thought it was more important to be in Iowa that day. I wonder why PP endorsed Clinton? Hmm… what do you think?
Reread my comment. I specifically said pp didn’t use a poll. They decided to just have the BOD vote.
PP isn’t a community the way HRC is. My point was how would you make up a poll for a community that doesn’t exist? Your point never made sense in the first place.
They are a huge national organization. 32 people making that decision is not democracy.
Good god. Stop. Vote for Bernie, but this scorched earth approach of attacking everyone and everything that isn’t perfectly aligned with your world view isn’t helping your candidate.
I’m not attacking at all. I simply pointed out all of the connections between Hilary and the executives of the two large organizations who decided to endorse her. If you don’t want to engage that’s fine, but I will continue to spread the facts, that can be easily researched.
Shocker. The former FLOTUS, Senator from NY state, and Secretary of State knows a lot of people. That’s not her fault that Bernie hasn’t done the same over his much longer tenure of public service. Blame that on Bernie, not Hillary.
You still don’t get it. The connections plus the fact that a small group made a decision for a national organization. Have a great day.
KEEP CRYing you nut job. Bernie the DINO is FINISHED. HAHAHA
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Nice name calling. Silver isn’t a psychic. Also I don’t care about the label of DINO. I only care about records and integrity, two things Sanders is strong on.
something is definitely wrong with Bernie’s campaign!!!!!
They do not know anything about civility!!!!
They are as bad as the TEA PARTY!!!!!
You mean the same TP that Clinton says she can make deals with since she’s such a pragmatist?
No, the same Tea Party that Bernie wants to get more supporters from!
No, Bernie is tapping into disenfranchised people that are sick of politics as usual (mostly independents). That groups distrusts and dislikes Clinton and will vote for TRUMP before Clinton. You really want that to happen? You want a Trump presidency?
Civility. You mean civil is sending out your daughter who has a Masters Degree in public health to lie about your opponents Healthcare Plan. You mean that kind of civility?
Forty years of globalism and “free trade” policies have now obviously failed. This is the perfect timing for a new direction and someone with a new vision. #berniesanders
“The sign of a society in trouble is when it has a major crisis and it turns to be saved by the people who caused the crisis.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F58AkoeSpn0
So now even the Bernie campaign starts bashing people and organizations who prefer Hillary? I thought it was just his rude and nasty young supporters but now I see who is really calling the shots. If this is their idea of how democracy works I want no part of Bernie Sanders and his agenda. The longer this campaign goes on and I learn what Sanders is all about the less likely I will be to vote for him if he is nominated. Being a moderate and an Independent voter who has for years leaned towards Democrats, I simply cannot find my way to support Sanders as a nominee. I have no idea what the Democrats were thinking when they embraced his candidacy.
Criticising primary endorsements is hardly bashing. Get a grip! Sanders by far has a more consistent record supporting LGBT rights than does Hillary. It’s absolutely reasonable to ask why HRC’s primary endorsement whent to her, especially since Madam Flip-Flop only decided to support gay marriage in 2013 for this election.
Can the reporter clarify a couple of things? Is the quote from the Sanders campaign that Sanders voted against DADT in 1993 in the Senate accurate?
Because, Sanders wasn’t elected Senator until 2006, and there was no vote on DADT, it was a policy, not a law.
Is this sloppy reporting, or is the Sanders campaign being dishonest?
Yes.
Sloppy reporting it seems. Bernie was not in the Senate at the time but he was in the House of Representatives. So he did vote against DADT the author just incorrectly stated which side of congress the vote was made on. Hope this helps!
https://votesmart.org/bill/votes/15579#.VbfPT0JViko
Bernie Sanders has a strong, bold, very extensive track record of supporting gay rights dating back 40 years . In a letter he published in the early 1970’s, when he was a candidate for governor of Vermont from the Liberty Union Party, Sanders invoked freedom to call for the abolition of all laws related to homosexuality http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/bernie-sanders-was-full-gay-equality-40-years-ago
In 1983, as Mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Bernie threw in his full support for a highly controversial gay pride march in the city http://www.queerty.com/32-years-before-marriage-equality-bernie-sanders-fought-for-gay-rights-20150719
Bernie proclaimed Gay Pride Day in Burlington 2 years later in 1985 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/03/1398990/-Important-document-from-the-desk-of-Mayor-Bernie-Sanders-1985
He fought against the discriminator DOMA (that first lady Hillary Clinton supported) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/why-bernie-sanders-must-t_b_8135236.html Bernie verbally blasted a conservative bigot on the House floor who didn’t want “homos in the military” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP7Oqp5j8fc
Bernie wanted to add full civil rights in housing, employment and public accommodation for LGBT people to the 1964 Civil Rights Act http://www.washingtonblade.com/2015/05/15/sanders-touts-lgbt-record-in-white-house-bid/
Bernie didn’t call marriage “a sacred bond between a man and a woman as a bedrock principle” on the Senate floor unlike some, or wait to support Civil Unions until 2010, or hold off on standing strong for LGBT Marriage Equality until 2013. He has always been a consistent champion of LGBT rights. http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-lgbtq-rights/
Hillary Clinton VS. Bernie Sanders on Gay Rights and LGBT Equality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBj3tWGQnIc
Clinton quotes against LGBT marriage:
“I think marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman.”
“I believe that marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman.”
“the sanctity of marriage, or to the fundamental bedrock principle that exists between a man and a woman”
Clinton was against Civil Unions until 2010 and against Marriage Equality until 2013. She called marriage “a sacred bond between a man and a woman as a bedrock principle” on the Senate floor in 2004 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iTrqHvTk_0
Clinton originally supported Don’t Ask Don’t Tell and has defended her support of DOMA (the Defense Of Marriage Act forbidding LGBT equal marriage rights) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-doma_us_562e7dcae4b0c66bae58eb2e
Could THIS have anything to do with this endorsement? “HRC President Chad Griffin got his start in politics volunteering for the Bill Clinton presidential campaign, which led to a position in the White House Press Office at the age of 19. Following his stint in the White House and his graduation from Georgetown University, he led a number of political campaigns advocating for or against various California ballot initiatives, as well as a number of fundraising efforts for political candidates, such as Hillary Clinton” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Griffin
Learn a little history, Berniebot. Bill ran on a PRO-GAY AGENDA. The ONLY reason DOMA and DADT got signed into law was because Gingrich threatened to shut down the government and cook up something WORSE if they weren’t.
Cynthia… let’s say Hillary wins – do you think it wise to alienate voters she’ll need in the general?
Not only that, but check your facts on that claim of hers
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/10/28/hillary-clintons-claim-that-doma-had-to-be-enacted-to-stop-an-anti-gay-marriage-amendment-to-the-u-s-constitution/
Then there’s this little video, containing part of her PRO-LGBT SPEECH FROM 1990…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LreOHZAJlgA
where is that? what pro lgbt speech?
Check this out too…
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/
The bernie bots are a tiny fringe.
hahahhhahahahhaha
That’s a totally fair point. Can you please remind all your fellow Bernie supporters of this very same point?
Learn a little history? Seriously? When did Clinton come out in favor of gay marriage? … and you’re calling other people “bots”… I’m gonna call you a name, Asshole.
Bill Clinton’s policies were consistently homophobic, if you look at substance, not fluff.
How is allowing the military to give LGBT folks dishonorable discharges and supporting the DOMA which specifically forbids gay marriage “pro-gay” again?
I’m guessing you’re either young or have a selective memory.
Why don’t you get off your lazy Berniebot ass and look it up yourself? I’m not your encyclopedia.
Isn’t that cute, more blind insults. Really making Clinton look good there by attacking like a RWNJ.
My point was that claiming an anti-gay bill is pro-gay is absurd. This isn’t opposites day.
I think Bernie’s cult is mad ..lol
“There is a secret to being a supporter of Bernie Sanders. It is something that totally escapes the thinking of most Democrats and Republicans. It is the mental understanding that Sanders is fighting a war that most people are not. It is the war between corporations and the people.
Unless you are fighting this war as well, you cannot possibly understand how important it is to vote for Bernie over Hillary. This is not about Hillary or Bernie, it is about fighting your real enemies, the multi-national corporations who are trying to control this nation and the world. You ignore this war at your own peril.” – Randolph Greer
Creepy
Ah, no – the Sanders campaign is full of it. The idea that he was some sort of champion for LGBT rights is false. I was there. He did nothing for us when we called on him to help. And HRC knows this.
Meanwhile, Hillary was raising money for us, getting other senators to vote against the constitutional amendment, and speaking up for LGBT rights internationally as SOS.
Sanders, meanwhile, was telling us Vermont wasn’t ready for marriage equality because of the state’s rights bullshit.
Sixteen years before “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” ended, then-Rep. Bernie Sanders took to the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives to defend the “thousands of men and women who have put their lives on the line” to defend our country.
https://youtu.be/vofisbFFtpI?t=2m1s
Uh………. NO!
Why would anybody be shocked? The President of this organization, Chad Griffin, has worked for the Clintons all his life. Just more cronyism sprinkled on top of the Clinton cronyism. #cronyism
*********** From Wikipedia *************
Chad Hunter Griffin (born July 16, 1973) is an American political strategist best known for his work advocating for LGBT rights in the United States.
Griffin got his start in politics volunteering for the Bill Clinton presidential campaign, which led to a position in the White House Press Office at the age of 19. Following his stint in the White House and his graduation from Georgetown University, he led a number of political campaigns advocating for or against various California ballot initiatives, as well as a number of fundraising efforts for political candidates, such as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
#HRC #LGBT #GLBT #Hillary #Clinton
#BernNotice #Bernie2016 #FeelTheBern
Yeah, he sure helped the gays in Burlington, VT. Your comment is full of it.
This headline is BS and it appears that the Washington Blade is following the Hillary campaigns’ penchant for bending the truth and playing filthy. The Sanders’ campaign didn’t “blast” or ‘tear into’ HRC’s endorsement of Hillary, it criticize and questioned it.
While Hillary has always had her finger to the wind to determine what was expedient, Sanders has been a consistent LGBT supporter.
The primary endorsement says more about the HRC leadership and their slovenly support for another corporate candidate and someone who in 2004 on the Senate floor called marriage a bond between a man and a woman! And still HRC supports her? Shame on the HRC!
In the future I’ll support progressive LGBT organizations and not those that defer to corporadoes like Goldman Sachs and the Senator for Wall Street.
I am truly truly sad about this. I think the evidence is clear who has given their support to the LGBT community over the years.
Presidential candidates making institutional attacks on progressive organizations because they didn’t get the endorsement. Not good. It would have been more honorable for the Senator to just continue to appeal to the community.
If the Sanders campaign had this negative view of HRC, why did they seek their endorsement? And if they only developed this negative view after the Clinton endorsement, why are they so unskilled at evaluating organizations? Shouldn’t a U.S. President be skillful at evaluation organizations?
With every endorsement that doesn’t go their way (NARAL, Planned Parenthood, Brady campaign, and now HRC) Sanders campaign get more and more butthurt and upset. Welcome to politics, wear a cup!
100% Correct! Because they are most generally fine examples of further crony capitalism that #BernieSanders has fought his entire career as a public servant.
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Why would anybody be shocked? The President of this organization, Chad Griffin, has worked for the Clintons all his life. Just more cronyism sprinkled on top of the Clinton cronyism. #cronyism
*********** From Wikipedia *************
Chad Hunter Griffin (born July 16, 1973) is an American political strategist best known for his work advocating for LGBT rights in the United States.
Griffin got his start in politics volunteering for the Bill Clinton presidential campaign, which led to a position in the White House Press Office at the age of 19. Following his stint in the White House and his graduation from Georgetown University, he led a number of political campaigns advocating for or against various California ballot initiatives, as well as a number of fundraising efforts for political candidates, such as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
#HRC #LGBT #GLBT #Hillary #Clinton
#BernNotice #Bernie2016 #FeelTheBern
Sorry. Ranting about “Wall Street” and “millionaires/billionaires” isn’t going to sway an electorate. Sanders had his opportunity to emulate what Sec. Clinton did last summer in doing a listening tour and he instead opted to do the same stump speeches for months and now it’s come back to bite him. Tough s**t!
Calling all paid #Hillary Trolls…calling all trolls. Please report back to home base on Hillary’s page for further instruction. smh
I guess you haven’t been paying attention to the polls. Sanders has been rising and right now is neck to neck with Hillary in Iowa. And guess what? In 2008 at this time Obama was 20% behind her!
How do you like to eat your crow?
Which Bernie followers said anything about the Brady nomination? I’ll wait.
Why would anybody be shocked? The President of this organization, Chad Griffin, has worked for the Clintons all his life. Just more cronyism sprinkled on top of the Clinton cronyism. #cronyism
*********** From Wikipedia *************
Chad Hunter Griffin (born July 16, 1973) is an American political strategist best known for his work advocating for LGBT rights in the United States.
Griffin got his start in politics volunteering for the Bill Clinton presidential campaign, which led to a position in the White House Press Office at the age of 19. Following his stint in the White House and his graduation from Georgetown University, he led a number of political campaigns advocating for or against various California ballot initiatives, as well as a number of fundraising efforts for political candidates, such as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
#HRC #LGBT #GLBT #Hillary #Clinton
#BernNotice #Bernie2016 #FeelTheBern
In short, you’re saying Bernie is entitled to these endorsements, because…?
In short, I’m saying they should have either endorsed the candidate that has best represented their organization for over 30 years, or they should have just stayed out of the “endorsement business”. Is that clear enough for you, “patriot”? lol
What has Sanders done to earn the endorsement of HRC, other than “being right on gay rights from the get-go”? That is just as weak as saying that Sanders is entitled to the black vote because he marched with MLK Jr.
You’re kidding, right? The past matters, whether you like it or not. What has he done? Well, advocating for equality for LBGTQ people “from the get-go”, compared to someone who does it when it will win them political points, shows consistency, integrity, and a dedication to doing what is right even when it won’t be popular. That’s the hallmark of a true leader. Marching with MLK Jr. shows he isn’t just going to talk big about helping the disenfranchised and oppressed, he’s going to get out there and DO SOMETHING about it, unlike Herllary who was too busy working for a Republican that wanted to repeal the Civil Rights Act. Pointing out a candidate’s behavior is only weak when their behavior is weak, like every other candidate’s, and like yours in suggesting that #BernieSanders record doesn’t answer your initial question. He has done so much more for every person in this country, including LGBTQ people, and that’s even more apparent when an organization’s leadership endorses Herllary, but their members overwhelmingly support Sanders. Otherwise, why wouldn’t they have polled their membership to decide who to endorse? Oh yah, because #Bernie wins every single member-polled endorsement out there.
#FeeltheBern Patriot! Perfect response…
Now let’s talk about how he voted against DOMA on states’ right grounds.
Now let’s talk about how other LGBT activists in his home state of Vermont were consistently frustrated by his silence on equality issues.
Now let’s talk about how in 2006 when asked by a reporter if he would support full marriage equality in Vermont and he said “no, that’s too divisive.”
He’s not the messiah for the LGBT community you’re painting him as.
I would be happy to explain in my view what Bernie has done to earn the endorsement on the HRC.
In an open letter from the early 1970’s Sanders wrote: “Let us abolish all laws which attempt to impose a particular brand of
morality or ‘right’ on people. Let’s abolish all laws dealing with
abortion, drugs, sexual behavior (adultery, homosexuality, etc.).”
In 1983 Sanders supported Burlington Vermont’s first Gay Pride Parade saying “we must all be committed to the mutual respect of each other’s lifestyle and as mayor he signed a Gay Pride Day proclamation.
In 1984 Bernie put through an anti-discrimination housing ordinance that protected people based on their sexual orientation.
In 1993, Bernie voted against Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell which barred LGBT people from serving in the military.
In 1995 he stood up on the House floor and defended gay people in the military during a discussion on a Clean Water Act bill.
In 1996 Bernie voted against the Defense of Marriage Act.
In 2000 Vermont proposed a Civil Union law which Bernie supported even though at the time 62% of people opposed same-sex unions.
As far as the records indicate, Bernie stood for LGBT’s rights throughout his career and I can’t find an instance where he voted against the LGBT community.
Hillary in comparison in 2000 said, : “Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back
to the beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage has
always been, between a man and a woman. But I also believe that people
in committed gay marriages, as they believe them to be, should be given
rights under the law that recognize and respect their relationship.”
She was in favor of the Defense of Marriage Act even though she was in favor of civil unions.
and 11 years later in 2007, she changed her opinion on DOMA stating: “I support repealing the provision of DOMA that may prohibit the
federal government from providing benefits to people in states that
recognize same-sex marriage.”
In 2007 debate Hillary was asked “What is at the heart of your opposition to same-sex marriage?” and she responded, “Well, I prefer to think of it as being very positive about civil unions.
You know, it’s a personal position. How we get to full equality is the
debate we’re having, and I am absolutely in favor of civil unions with
full equality of benefits, rights, and privileges.”
So what does all of this tell me? Both Hillary and Bernie support equal rights for everyone based on sexual orientation which is great! However publicly, Hillary disagreed with same sex marriage. She also supported DOMA for many years which was one of the big repeals the HRC was fighting for. Based on these positions I think Bernie has shown he has been a longer and stronger candidate supporting the same things the HRC has been fighting for and therefore is more deserving of the HRC’s endorsement.
Bernie Sanders has certainly “earned” the endorsement of any pro-LGBT group!
You don’t think that “being right on gay rights from the get-go” would earn him the endorsement of any gay rights proponents over Hell ery, who has voted AGAINST gay rights until 2 or 3 years ago once it was politically profitable to do so?
My god, what the hell has SHE done to earn their endorsement???
Bernie is an UNELECTABLE DINO gun nut. He’s TOAST.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Fact: Sanders is consistently pro-LGBT.
Fact: Clinton has been homophobic the overwhelming majority of the time.
Fact: Sanders is consistently pro-LGBT, except when he’s not
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
#feelthebernout moron
Really??? “Blasts” ?? Upon Inquisition and instigation by this cheap blog, the Sanders campaign gave a very sane, non-threatening and accurate reply.
LOL Ah…. I get it!! “NW10, PAT_ROT” is really Chris Johnson, the author of this hatchet job!! LOL Now it all makes sense.
I just cancelled my HRC membership in their Partners program and all future donations. I sent them a pretty strong email as well. https://www.facebook.com/williamtcarter/posts/10208298026586431
Good, because they don’t need fake progressive support anyway.
Im not a regressive. I’m a liberal. And yes, they clearly don’t need my support, and neither will they get it.
No you’re not a progressive. Progressives aren’t ignorant. The mere fact that you’re so “outraged” about their endorsement suggests you are either pretending to have supported HRC in the past or, don’t have a thorough grasp of the candidates’ actual voting records.
He’s not a progressive for not supporting a specific organization? That’s laughable and is just trolling.
If LGBT issues were truly important to him, then no he wouldn’t withdraw support for them simply because they endorsed one candidate over another. Furthermore, progressives aren’t usually ignorant and William must be ignorant if he actually believes Sanders record on LGBT issues is so much better than Clinton’s.
And checking the Disqus record it’s obvious you’re a Hillary troll.
You’re obviously a Berniebot troll. Hey Berniebot, don’t you have to go support the corporate gun-lobby and make sure victims of gun violence are prohibited from even going to court against the gun lobby?
But do keep pretending that this election is all about the issues!
wah wah wah you pathetic loser.
https://help.disqus.com/customer/portal/articles/1753105-basic-rules-for-disqus-powered-profiles-and-discussions
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
GFY loser
Once again, the desperate and pathetic Berniebots throw a hissy fit because an organization has the audacity to endorse Clinton over Sanders. By the way Berniebots, you might actually want to review Sanders ENTIRE record before casting stones at Clinton. http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/10/05/bernie_sanders_on_marriage_equality_he_s_no_longtime_champion.html
Hissy fit? That sounds a bit a sexist, doesn’t it?
If the shoe fits….
You’re right, Ms Homophobic, if the shoe fits wear it.
Hissy fit refers to immature people throwing temper tantrums! You must be another ignorant Berniebot.
By the way, I used hissy fit not to make any sexist accusation, but because the Berniebots are such ignorant crybabies.
Bernie bots are paid trolls. They are delusional losers.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
The sign of a good politician is one who’s vote EVOLVES not CHANGES. His vote has evolved from full support/states decision to full support/fed decision. Clinton’s has changed from no support to full support. Your argument is unfounded. Link clearly shows that Sanders has a superior voting record on this issue. Stop defending criminals, makes ya look bad. http://www.ontheissues.org/Notebook/Note_06n-HRC.htm
Another two articles showing how Bernie has “evolved” on LGBT rights. http://time.com/4089946/bernie-sanders-gay-marriage/
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/28/us/politics/as-gay-rights-ally-bernie-sanders-wasnt-always-in-vanguard.html?_r=0
I am glad you are proud of supporting a canidate that followed Bush and Cheney to war, voted for the patriot act, made a mess in Libya and Syria, takes millions from foreign governments that abuse women, has a charity that only 10 cents on the dollar helps anyone, and changes positions based on polls. Vote for a leader, senator Bernie Sander. He led on minority rights, gay rights, Iraq war, patriot act, TPP, keystone pipeline, healthcare, income inequality, and WOMENS RIGHTS. HRC is a poll/money follower, not a leader.
Oh wow, there’s so much bs in that to unpack. Let’s start with your first false attack-the Iraq War. Apparently, you don’t know what Congress authorized. Congress authorized the AUMF, which provided that then President Bush had authority to use military force against Iraq, BUT ONLY AS A LAST RESORT & ONLY IF HUSSEIN DIDN’T COMPLY with the inspections. That’s far different than declaring war.
Secondly, the Syrian people started the civil war against Assad when Assad brutally massacred thousands of dissidents peacefully opposing his regime. We did not start that. Indeed, the Syrian people requested our help and the UN endorsed action to remove Assad.
Thirdly, while American culture abhors the Islamic culture that demeans women, that doesn’t make the Islam our enemy. Saudi Arabia has been and continues to be our ally, so I see nothing wrong for them to donate to the Foundation and for the donations to be used for charitable purposes. And before you launch the fake rightwing attack against the Foundation, you should know that Charity Watch, a nonprofit organization that monitors the legitimacy of charities, gives the Clinton Foundation an A rating.
LOL, first everyone knew it authorised war, she has already admitted she was wrong, as are you. She has yet to answer for her patriot act vote.
Second, I did not say she started it, I said she made a mess in Syria and Libya. Libya was her baby. I didn’t hear you mention that in your uneducated rant.
Thirdly, she has proven she will take money from anyone who will give it. Private prisons, wall street, healthcare companies, big pharmaceutical companies, and woman abusing countries, that she had a conflict of interests, due to arms deals, as SOS, with those same countries. Also her charity spends most of its money on a library in their honor and paying their speaking fees.
https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-Clinton-Foundation-money-goes-to-real-and-actual-charities-that-are-not-controlled-by-the-Clintons
You are either paid to spread that crap, or are very uninformed.
Wow, you’re even more ignorant than I thought.
HRC had to concede the argument about the AUMF because of simple-minded idiots such as yourself. The FACT is that the AUMF authorized force as a LAST RESORT.
Secondly, as far as Libya is concerned, again Gaddafi was about to launch an imminent massacre of his political dissidents, which he affectionately referred to as “cockroaches.” And once again, the UN and Libyans pleaded for our intervention. You must not be very well informed because this is all public record.
Third, she has rejected private prison donations and 89% of the donations to their Foundation goes straight to charity projects. http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/
You want to play again, Berniebot? You pathetic liar!
Bernie is a right wing gun nut you POS
Bernie is republican lite. He’s an OLD, UNELECTABLE DINO who used to write essays about his rape fantasies.
You are embarrassing yourself. He is a good man and will fight for working Americans. Looks like Hillary will be in court anyway about the new classified emails. Also she is getting whipped in the polls. You seem passionate about democratic values, why not get on board with an honest canidate?
Bernie is an UNELECTABLE DINO LOSER. Bernie is getting whipped in the polls and he is FINISHED you low info parasite.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
“Saudi Arabia has been and continues to be our ally”
And that sucks for all the LGBT people in Saudi Arabia who have to flee elsewhere to be themselves.
There is more to this story that meets the eye… I think we need a better organization to represent the rights of people HRC’s days are counted.
Listen Bill Clinton was elected by making promises to the Gay faction to help Gays in the millitary. And then that was the best he could do was ‘Don’t Ask Don’t Tell’… that was from Bill Clinton. And I felt it funny that Bill Clinton got to actually experience the Karma… immediately, he got to find out that don’t ask don’t tell does not work (monica).
What the ignorant Berniebots don’t understand, and many of them weren’t even born during DADT, was that prior to DADT, it was absolutely prohibited for gays/lesbians to serve in the military and when President Clinton promoted gays/lesbians in the military, the backlash from MOST of America prevented him from going any further than DADT. Politics is about compromise and had President Clinton had pushed any further on gays/lesbians serving in the military, he may have not even been able to get DADT. That’s how angry the majority of Americans were about even permitting gays/lesbians to serve.
DADT was just a bad law anyway you look at it. Yes, the political climate would not have allowed it. I agree. But the law basically said, you can be gay and serve but just don’t talk about it. It’s like a non-law.
It was an ugly half-measure. I grew up in the epicenter of the AIDS crisis as a child of the 70s in San Francisco. Even in SF, gay rights weren’t really a thing yet. People who advocated for civil rights in SF were viewed as fringe nutjobs up until the 90s. I know in retrospect Clinton’s moves looked like weak sauce, but they were pretty revolutionary at the time.
HRC is the most effective grassroots organization around. Everyone who wants to see real change should study how they have made incredible progress.
This is about choosing a candidate who can get stuff done. And that is Hillary, hands down. Bernie rails against the right stuff but he doesn’t understand nor have policy positions that with fix stuff that is wrong.
Meanwhile John Podesta is her campaign manager, who owns The Podesta Group, which is among the top paid lobbying firms representing clients in the worst human rights-violating nations. You know a person by the company they keep:
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2015/12/17/18940/top-paid-firms-representing-clients-worst-human-rights-violating-nations-2010?utm_campaign=syndication&utm_source=yahoo-news&utm_media=relation&utm_content=node-freeform
Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders chief campaign strategist, Jeff Weaver, worked for a firm representing the evil Monsanto!!!!
So he worked for a law firm. Got it.
If Bernie Sanders was such a stalwart in supporting LGBT issues, then why is he on record saying LGBT issues are “not a major priority to him”? Furthermore, why did Bernie publicly oppose an anti-discrimination ordinance protecting gays/lesbians in the workplace as mayor? Why did Bernie defend his vote against DOMA solely on states’ rights concerns and not for marriage equality? Why did Bernie oppose his home state’s efforts to legalize same-sex marriage in 2006 and why didn’t Bernie come out in full support for marriage equality only as recently as 2009?
Key line, “…strong ability to win against any Republican running…” The leadership is not willing to take a stand with Bernie because they believe that HRC is “inevitable”. Not necessarily the better candidate. It is so sad that a group known for taking coragous stands are too cowardly on this point. Or is it only the leadership that are afraid?
Or maybe they just know that Clinton will be far more effective in getting things done than Bernie….I mean Bernie’s been in Congress over three decades and has done virtually nothing in that time befitting his pandering for a political revolution.
Or maybe it’s because the President of the HRC is completely biased in this endorsement.
His wikipedia page states: “Griffin got his start in politics volunteering for the Bill Clinton presidential campaign, which led to a position in the White House Press Office at the age of 19”
Yes, the psychic mediums just “know” that HRC would be able to seduce a republican congress to do her bidding. I mean, just because they stone-walled president Obama doesn’t mean they will do the same to HRC.
Besides, those who claim Bernie has done nothing in congress do not understand how congress works and tend to only look at bills sponsored and not at amendments and being a voice during debates.
Did I say HRC would fare much better??? Furthermore, HRC isn’t promising things she can’t deliver, unlike Sanders. The fucking is lying straight to your face and yet, you eat it up! You Berniebots are so pathetic.
Did I say HRC would fare much better??? Furthermore, HRC isn’t promising things she can’t deliver, unlike Sanders. The guy is lying straight to your face and yet, you eat it up! You Berniebots are so pathetic.
Bernie bots heads explode every time Hillary gets a big endorsement. hahaha
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Hey Bernie bots, your DINO is getting crushed in endorsements. Your heads will explode when Warren endorses Hillary.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
“Long time supporter”? Horsecrap. Bernie hasn’t done dick for the LGBT community, and he will continue to do dick for them.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-05/bernie-sanders-says-he-d-let-religious-groups-against-gay-marriage-stay-tax-exempt
http://americablog.com/2015/10/is-bernie-sanders-exaggerating-gay-rights-record.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/10/27/bernie-sanders-is-revising-history-too/?postshare=7481445961609096
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/10/05/bernie_sanders_on_marriage_equality_he_s_no_longtime_champion.html
Get over it, Berniebots. Human Rights Campaign SUPPORTS HILLARY.
Yep, brady campaign, planned parenthood, naral, and many others have endorsed Hillary. Just wait until Elizabeth Warren endorses Hillary. The Bernie bot morons will have a heart attack. LOL
Ann Richards was a given. I’m not surprised by it at all actually. PP is under attack and they are trying secure allies. I get it. I think most people feel they should have not endorsed at all because they haven’t before or at least held out a little while longer before endorsing.
Your board of directors supports Hillary. What do the members say I wonder.
The members don’t support your OLD UNELECTABLE DINO Bernie moron.
This member agrees with the HRC board.
You Bernie bots are some of the most vile and disgusting people I’ve come across on the internet. You’re ALMOST as bad as the racist Trump fans. You throw fits when an endorsement doesn’t go your way and you claim conspiracy every time your DINO is getting killed in a poll and you run to all of the online polls after a debate and vote 100 times each. You are pathetic paid Trolls who are obsessed with an 80 year old DINO socialist who will NEVER become POTUS. ;) MANY people are getting turned off from Bernie because of his disgusting nut job supporters.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
You are the only one with vile disgusting posts here, oh and BTW all of your incessant spam and foul language has been flagged and you will; soon be blocked from this sit.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
go take your meds you unhinged wacko.
I almost forgot this, which contains part of Hillary’s pro-LGBT speech from NINETEEN NINETY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LreOHZAJlgA
She didn’t make a pro-LGBT speech in 1990.
In order:
1) Video from 3/10/13
2) Speech from October 2015
3) “We will not back down” speech from 2012 AIDS Conference speech
4) “Gay rights are human rights” Speech in Geneva 2011
5) Video of Speech from 10/6/01
6) More video from HRC Dinner October 2015
Perhaps her earliest related speech would be the “women’s rights are human rights” from her 1995 speech in Beijing. But no, she didn’t make a pro-LGBT speech in 1990 when she was the First Lady of Arkansas.
I’m so sick of straight people telling gay people what to think. Most of you posting against HRC on this thread aren’t even LGB or T, and those of you who are were probably sucking on your Mothers in 1992. It’s easy for Sanders to act high and mighty when he comes from one of the most liberal states in the nation. For politicians who are active at the national level, supporting LGBT right has been a mine field for two decades. BIll Clinton, however, was the first national politician to even mention us and acknowledge our plight. He campaigned, CAMPAIGNED, on open gay service in the military in 1992, and it was the first thing he tried to do after taking the office. However, the harsh saw of reality and bigotry made him play defense on LGBT issues for the rest of his presidency.
Obama, who ended up being our greatest advocate, didn’t publicly support gay marriage until 2012. Why? It wasn’t because he really didn’t. He did, but he knew he couldn’t say it in 2008 and get elected President. Same thing for Clinton, neither she nor Obama can publicly come out and say that they always supported us but were playing politics, but that is the truth, and thank God that Obama did hide that. I’m much better off now that he was elected in 2008 than if he had been a purist and lost to McCain. Do any of you remember the blood bath that was the 2004 election when Karl Rove used the boogeyman of gay marriage to sweep the GOP into power in many state governments?
Politics is hard, because it takes walking a tight rope. Sanders is stupid. He would never be elected, because he can’t keep his mouth shut. He wants to tell everyone that he is a socialist, “Democratic” or not and that he will raise taxes on the middle class. He still won’t acknowledge that this makes hime completely unelectable in the general election. Can you imagine if he had been president in the 90s? Because his purity would not have allowed him to push DOMA, we would have gotten a constitutional amendment banning our marriages. Instead of celebrating Obergefell this year, we would be fighting a much harder battle.
so you would agree with the HRC that the entire trans community should just sit down? throwing members of the community under the bus for political expediency kinda compromises the entire POINT of the HRC. you remember back to 2004, and you still defend the actions of the HRC?
Yeah, that is a complete mischaracterization of their work. I believe activists need to be activists and continue to speak out. However, political organizations cannot ignore what is possible to achieve and what is not possible at the moment. If we have to wait until everyone accepts every part of LGBT rights, we would never advance, However, to get some progress means that we will probably be able to build upon that. This in many ways defines the different candidacies of Clinton and Sanders. Sanders can never deliver on the promises he makes, single payer, free college, expanded social security. However, that doesn’t mean nothing is possible, but one has to be adept at transaction politics which Sanders has never had the stomach for. It’s why his legislative record for the past 26 years is so thin when compared to that of Clinton’s who was only in the Senate for six years.
Bernie bots, get over it. Human rights campaign ENDORSED Hillary, not your DINO Bernie. Accept reality loons.
He nailed it, the HRC is an establishment org. I wouldn’t give them a cent, and I certainly wouldn’t want them representing me as a gay man. Who needs them anymore?
poor widdle baby is angry because hrc didn’t wanna endorse an old unelectable dino like Bernie. haha
YOU are the one coming across like an immature brat. Just look at your hundreds of idiotic trolling cry baby “comments”. LOL!
#FeeltheBern
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
#feelthebernout you low information parasite
HRC has failed the LGBT+ community and betrayed a lifetime friend and fierc advocate. Shame, HRC. Big gay shame on you. HRC = Hillary Rodham Clinton = DEATH
Bernie the DINO is a failure.
Says the guy with 5 comments who upvoted his own post. You’re not a BernieBot. Nope, not at all!
This is political cronyism….Chad Griffin, the prez of HRC had a job in the White House press office after working on Bill Clinton’s campaign. Hardly a democratic move on HRC’s part…why not give us a vote to decide who to endorse?
cry some more Bernie bot. hahaah
I hope you die a slow horrible death.
Hillary is one of the main architects of the TPP and sold it around the world:
Clinton Took “A Leading Part In Drafting The Trans-Pacific Partnership.”
“She’s pressed the case for U.S. business in Cambodia, Singapore, Vietnam, Indonesia, and other countries in China’s shadow. She’s also taken a leading part in drafting the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a free trade pact that would give U.S. companies a leg up on their Chinese competitors.”
(Elizabeth Dwoskin and Indira Laksmanan, “How Hillary Clinton Created A U.S. Business-Promotion Machine,” Bloomberg, 1/10/13)
And why do we now need a leg up on China? Because their (yes “their”, it was a co-presidency) administration continued to send jobs to China during the 90’s, beefing up their economy.
Because the TPP grants corporations governance over democratic nations, I hope you never want to make your voice heard again because it could land you in a private corporate tribunal, away from US courts. Talk about human rights violations!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5StztvYw5SA
“Do we need a Lesbian and Gay Pride Day? When our lives must be a struggle for peace and self respect– yes!” — A Vermonter thanking Bernie for instituting Gay Pride Day back in 1983.
The actions of the HRC disgust me, and as a gay man I will NEVER support their corporatist pandering, white bread, shortsighted organization ever again.
Haha Clinton strong record duh fuck
The only thing that really matters is this: If Hillary were a person of the people and was really going to heal deep divides, then she would already be doing it. People wouldn’t be championing for her solely because she’s a woman or because they don’t want a republican in office. Whereas people like Bernie because of what he stands for, people want Hillary AND THEN justify it with what she stands for. People actually LIKE Bernie. But back my original point — If she were going to heal these divides, SHE WOULD ALREADY BE DOING IT. I don’t see her ANYWHERE on the ground level of things, getting endorsements from black intellectuals like Cornel West or from black activists like Killer Mike. Or even sitting down and having a level-headed, REAL, non-opportunistic, human to human conversation like Bernie did with Killer Mike. I just don’t see it happening. I don’t see her reaching people’s hearts because I don’t think she comes from the same place internally that Bernie comes from. She may hit the notes intellectually and spew all the buzzwords and speak with the fervor of a politician but at the end of the day, I just don’t believe her because you get of sense of who she is as a human being from how she has and continues to conduct herself and her campaign. Cheap attacks and lies just don’t cut it anymore.
Money bomb for Bernie Sanders from all gays, lesbians, bis and transgenders who support Bernie Sanders. And from their supporters. Let’s show HRC and HRC what we think about Pantsuits. She’s certainly not someone we’ll give our money to, much less vote for.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Bernie the DINO is a flip flopping pathological liar.
HRC does great work for white middle-class LG Americans. They haven’t much history of rocking the establishment, and until recently have pretty much ignored the BT in LGBT, and people of color, if not been outright hostile to these communities. I’d rather have them fighting for LGBT rights than not, but they too often fight for middlebrow mainstream acceptability. Us B and Ts, us on the left, have argued and fought with them for years over these issues (and to be fair, we have made some progress with them, but not nearly enough). So I too agree 100% with Bernie’s position, for all that and for the reasons others have stated in earlier comments.
People of color isn’t their concern, any more than the NAACP concerns itself with gay rights. You have to be careful to not support causes that while just are outside the purview of the non profit you are working with.
You are right, however, HRC does support Gay rights far more than Bi Rights, but that’s partially because supporting bi rights is a more nuanced battle, while fighting for gay rights, and gay marriage specifically, was an easy battle call.
Bernie Sanders is a true progressive in LGBT rights. Everyone read the letters in the link. They describe the Proclamation making June 25, 1983 Gay Pride Day in Burlington, VT.
“In our democratic society, it is the responsibility of the government to safeguard civil liberties and civil rights – especially the freedom of speech and expression. In a free society we must all be mutual respect of each others lifestyles.”
Bernie Sanders
Mayor of Burlington
https://www.scribd.com/doc/270078345/Sanders-Pride-March-Correspondence-1983-1986
Bernie is a DINO.
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
“Recalling Sanders support for civil unions in Vermont when it became the first state to enact them in 2000, Briggs said Sanders was “a pioneer on this early version of gay marriage…”
That may be how they are telling it today, but Sanders actually stood against same sex marriage in Vermont, at the time telling reporters that “he was comfortable with civil unions but not full marriage equality.” Sanders complained that a battle for same-sex marriage would be too “divisive.”
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
The Bernie bots are having an heart attack right now. hahaah
Bernie is sinking faster than the titanic. haha
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Bernie the DINO is sinking faster than the titanic. hahaahah
I have no respect anymore for the HRC.
They have lost any of my support and will NEVER AGAIN get another dime out of me!
you are a brain dead moron.
When youre a progressive group who fights all the right fights for all the right reasons, why wouldnt you look for a candidate who does the same thing… Hillary has never had any respect for or interest in fighting for the gay community until it became popular to do so… Bernie has been fighting those fights when it wasnt politically wise to do so… He fought for us, not for what he would get out of it… This endorsement is shameful.
Bernie is republican lite aka a DINO. He’s DONE.
Bernie bots, you act like a bunch of sore losers. Hillary is getting a ton of endorsements while your OLD, UNELECTABLE DOUCHEBAG Bernie is getting well, far less than Hillary.
#feelthebernout
I dont see where he “blasts” HRC, but I do see a new angle the media is trying to drum up along with the Shilary supporters, of the “blasting” allies etc angle… it is transparent and won;’t work
This has more to do with Goldman-Sachs than anything else. My = stickers are all in the trash and my donations are gone. I always wondered why people bashed the HRC but I never looked into it. Duh.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-beaver/hrc-goldman-sachs_b_1257465.html
Anybody released what the vote was among the 32 community leaders?
As with the ‘established’ leaders of several unions that did not solicit members on their views – these “spokesmen’ may well be outvoted by their constitiency. Real people know! Sycophants are EXPECTED to ‘show’.
I think it is sad that the deceptively named “Human Rights Campaign” has endorsed a notorious homophobe like Hillary Clinton. It’s yet another betrayal of the LGBT civil rights movement, and it shows that the only thing the HRC cares about is big money donation. No knowledgable LGBT person gives them a dime.
Hillary Clinton is a notorious homophobe now? You BernieBros need to get a grip.
How could Hilary Clinton get that endorsement. She helped Bill Clinton destroy those ladys he fondled or had an affair with.
I’m for Bernie. The HRC didn’t ask my opinion.
What THIS is is calling in FAVORS for “support given!’
I will not support the HRC again. Bernie Sanders has stood with LGBT community from day one. Hillary only did when it was politically advantageous for her. Enough is Enough.
No, Bernie Sanders has not supported the LGBT community since day 1.This is a mythology not based on any facts. Do some research and then get back to me. His history on LGBT equality is a lot murkier than you believe.
I suggest you compare his to Hillary’s. He has been a lot more supportive than she has.
No, sorry but you’re wrong.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/10/27/bernie-sanders-is-revising-history-too/
And he gets zero credit for voting against DOMA on the grounds of states’ rights. Give me a break. That doesn’t count!
Whose husband put DOMA in effect? You are the one who doesn’t have your facts in order. Continue to support your lying candidate Hillary.
So using your logic we should hold Laura Bush accountable for the Patriot Act? Do you have any awareness as to how stupid your argument is?
I don’t know why you need to be so rude when you disagree with someone. Save your comments for someone else.
Because I’m sick and tired of these lies from the BernieBots like yourself (6 posts? Really?) smearing Clinton while putting Sanders on a pedastal he doesn’t deserve. They’re both deserving of the LGBT community’s support, and I’m not going to be silent when I continue to see all these lies about Clinton and her LGBT record, particularly in comparison to Sanders.
I guess you will be sick and tired when Bernie wins.
Right. The polls don’t lie. He’s about to get smoked. And badly. Later, BernieBot with 7 posts.
Bernie Sanders is a pathological liar.
back up your statement.
Human Rights Campaign exists solely to deliver voters to Democrats. They have decades of ignoring and dismissing the needs of working class and poor LGBT folks, and POC. This is merely their latest shitshow. Endlessly fuck them forever!
Good Choice…Thank You!! Wake up Blue America!! bern-OUT is NOT a Democrat and would hurt our party in November and lose the White House! Only a TRUE Democrat for me…Viva Hillary!!! #ImWithHer
Hillary is not a true Democrat, either. She has made a career out of pushing a moderate Republican agenda. I think if you became less concerned with the affiliation stamped on their voter cards and paid more attention to actual issues, you will find that Sanders is definitely a Democrat in the FDR model. Even Rand Paul called out Hillary as a neocon. Her positions are certainly not in line with traditional Democratic party values.
Feel The Bern! People want someone honest and trustworthy, Bernie Sanders will be our next President!!
#FEELTHEBERNOUT
POTUS Hillary Clinton, deal with it you delusional wacko.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
How can someone run a country in prison? I’m pretty sure that’s where she’s headed. NERO88888 I hope they are paying you to troll this message board. Feel the Bern, feels so good!!
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/20/1472601/-NC-Clinton-59-Sanders-26-WOW
#FEELTHEBERNOUT MORON
DINO Bernie is DONE. HAHAHAHAH
Bernie will never be elected president. Even if he wins the nomination, it will be a Republican victory because conservatives fear socialism.
You picked the wrong person. Period. Hillary is almost as old as Sanders, btw. What are you guys THINKING??? Ok, you are losing my affection, fast.
I have long been a financial backer of the Human Rights Campaign. They just lost my donations and my support.
You might want to reconsider that stance. Last night on Maddow’s show he referred to the HRC as the “Human Rights Fund.” For an organization in which he feels entitled to their endorsement, he should probably know the name, no? He also went on the attack against the HRC and Planned Parenthood. He’s coming unhinged.
No, I do not want to reconsider especially since he NEVER said he was ‘entitled’ to their endorsement. If you seriously think that it is more important that he remembers the full name of the HRC than that the HRC gave HIM its highest rating as a legislator–100% on LGBT issues, substantially higher than the rating they gave Clinton, then I suggest that it is YOU who needs to reconsider, but what you need to look at is your priorities.
Nor did he ‘attack’ the HRC or Planned Parenthood. Like it or not, they are part of the Democratic establishment. That is hardly an ‘attack’.
He is most definitely not ‘unhinged’ but the panic mode of you Clinton supporters is reaching that stage.
Edit: I repeat what I told the HRC today after I stopped my regular donation, they will never see another penny from me. I should have done it when they betrayed our trans brothers and sisters over employment protections. But this was the final straw for me.
You’re comparing apples to oranges. I’ve seen that grade comparison. It compares Clinton’s 2008 grade when she was last a US Senator to Bernie’s 2015 rating. Guess what… Sanders didn’t support full gay civil rights in 2015 either (not until 2009). You’re being intellectually dishonest in an attempt to airbrush history, but it sounds like you’re perfectly comfortable in this alternate reality. Me? Oh, I like real reality, so I’ll just stay put here.
No, the grades are from the same organization so it is apples to apples. You just don’t much like facts.
But I am now curious. In your ‘reality’ are you a member of HRC? What other LGBTQ organizations are you a member of? I note you preferred not to address that the HRC did not ask its membership before they gave out OUR supposed endorsement. So you think that is acceptable?
Or are you any chance just a Clinton mouthpiece with no ties whatsoever to the LGBTQ community?
You’re using different dates, jerkoff. I see intellectual dishonesty is deeply embedded into your psyche. Go back and use Sanders’ 2008 rating, which is NOT 100%, if you’re going to use HIllary’s 2008 rating.
Yes, I’m an HRC supporter and donor and regularly volunteer legal services on a pro bono basis for LGBT issues. Most organizations do not poll their members before giving out an endorsement. No one is required to vote the way HRC advises us to. It’s merely a suggestion. You’re free to vote for whomever you want, but lying about the other candidate whom you don’t prefer only serves to make you look petty, small, and petulant, much like Sanders looks like after his attacks on the HRC and Planned Parenthood.
From Sanders’ spokesman with respect to HRC’s (not HRF) endorsement: ““It’s understandable and consistent with the establishment organizations voting for the establishment candidate,” he jabbed, “but it’s an endorsement that cannot possibly be based on the facts and the record.”
What was that about entitlement issues, you say?
That is exactly what I said. Nowhere did his spokesman say he was ‘entitled’ to the endorsement. That is in your imagination and bias, not in the comment. In fact, what most of us say is that there should have been NO endorsement at this point in the campaign. Certainly at the least, they should have consulted the membership.
You are claiming he’s wrong, so you tell ME how it’s based on ‘the record’ when even the HRC gives Sanders’ record a 100% on LGBT issues and Clinton only a 89%. Whatever the endorsement was based on, it most certainly was NOT based on the record.
This statement doesn’t reek of entitlement to you? Reading between the lines is apparently not your strong suit. This is entitlement to the nth degree. I’m guessing the critical reading section of standardized tests is not where you score in the 99th percentile.
The problem is that you are putting your interpretation ‘between the lines’ and not anything that is there. As for your further insults, amazing how quickly Clinton supporters turn to that, instead of the issues.
Now back to the issue at hand, which LGBTQ organizations are you a member of? And why do you think it is all right for HRC to give members’ endorsement to a candidate without asking us?
Ok. Not interested. Have a good day.
Tough questions, eh?
No, just not interested in speaking with a BernieBro not willing to listen or possibly consider other viewpoints.
Yet another attempt at insults instead of issues, with a bit of sexism thrown in for good measure. I am definitely not a ‘Bro’ of any sort or stripe. Now why is it acceptable for HRC to issue an endorsement without consulting its membership?
ok
This just stinks and I think it all gets down to money, sadly. Both LGBT and HRC do, and will continue to, benefit financially from HRC and her husband’s coffers. It is actually Bernie Sanders who has fought the good fight for LGBT and HRC for just as long or longer than HRC, especially LGBT. Anyone can check his voting record and history on all matters LGBT related.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
Bernie the UNELECTABLE DINO SOCIALIST IS DONE.
Bernie bots, you LOST. HAHAHA Bernie the UNELECTABLE DINO is going down. hahaha
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/20/the-math-is-clear-hillary-clinton-has-better-odds-of-becoming-president-than-anybody-else-by-far/
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/13/455812702/clinton-has-45-to-1-superdelegate-advantage-over-sanders
“I could see Bernie Sanders winning a few states,” Silver said of the
Vermont independent. “New Hampshire is still very close. But [Clinton’s]
chances have to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent. Trump has more of a
chance than Bernie.”-Nate Silver
The paragraph at the end, trying to say that Bernie was not in support of marriage inequality is misleading. “Not right now, not after what we just went through.” doesn’t say anything about what Bernie’s ‘favor’ is. He may have just been referring to a need to regroup and recover from Vermont’s conflict.
RUN by the corrupt ESTABLISHMENT POLITICS indeed!
http://www.back2stonewall.com/2014/09/hrc-prez-chad-giffins-2013-salary-507000-00-stealing-credit-rewriting-history-pays-well.html
As a Trans woman, I’m still feeling the Bern! And I am not even American! Bernie is the type of ideal honest and compassionate politician every country deserves and need!
Planned parenthood and HRC are indeed part of the establishment, but only **in the sense** that they are tied to establishment politics and they feel obligated to endorse establishment politicians. Hillary and her campaign (including the executives in planned parenthood and HRC) are purposely taking what Bernie said out of context to attack him disingeneously, as they always do.
No more donations for the HRC.
As it was coined on GayUSA, it’s The Establishment Endorsing the Establishment. Hilliary is frantic to stop Bernie as she’s way afraid of another run into the mud as she had in 2008.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCIL9xzTPTo
As a gay man, I believe that much of the gay community is completely out of touch with the Gay community and with their masculinity and with reality anymore. They have always been and always shall be their OWN worst nightmares and enemies! Silly, flippant, farcical, fake, arrogant, weak, and stupid, pantomimic queens like RuPaul, and her ridiculous male-destroying show, all seem to be on a mission to put a c u n t, bra and fresh panties on every man on earth! May God destroy it all!
Especially gay men anymore; most of whom seem hell bent on giving all of their power away as men to WOE-men, allowing them to tell them what to do, beat on them, manipulate, control, dominate, harass, degrade, kill, and dis-empower them. They dress like woe-men, act like them, behave like them, talk like them, etc. It’s all so goddamned satanic and weird! It’s sucks and it’s insane! Stupid, worthless queens! WAKE UP! Claim your masculinity back before it’s too late. You can be gay and masculine without chopping your dyck off all the damned time! Just because we’re gay doesn’t mean that you always have to act like disgusting cunts, so grow up!
Hil-LIAR-y Clinton is a conniving, two-faced, liar; she is completely incapable of running the nation because she has never even been capable of running her own life, her previous professions as both the Secretary of State, as well as a lawyer back in the early to middle 70’s, when she was fired for unethical behavior, much less to her ridiculous, farcical marriage to that womanizer, Bill. She is a malehating, powermad bitch who will stop at nothing and step on and over anyone who gets in her way to get what she wants.
Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is all man and has supported us right from the very beginning. Again, wake up, fools! You stupid silly queers won’t get it until one day soon you wake up and you find yourselves without anymore of your power.
You’ll wake up in HELL!!!!!
As a gay man, I believe that much of the gay community is completely out of touch with the Gay community and with their masculinity and with reality anymore. They have always been and always shall be their OWN worst nightmares and enemies! Silly, flippant, farcical, fake, arrogant, weak, and stupid, pantomimic queens like RuPaul, and her ridiculous male-destroying show, all seem to be on a mission to put a c u n t, bra and fresh panties on every man on the face of the earth! May God destroy it all!
Especially gay men anymore; most of whom seem hell bent on giving all of their power away as men to WOE-men, allowing them to tell them what to do, beat on them, manipulate, control, dominate, harass, degrade, kill, and dis-empower them. They dress like woe-men, act like them, behave like them, talk like them, etc. It’s all so goddamned satanic and weird! It’s sucks and it’s insane! Stupid, worthless queens! WAKE UP! Claim your masculinity back before it’s too late. You can be gay and masculine without chopping your d y c k off all the damned time! Just because we’re gay doesn’t mean that you always have to act like disgusting c u n t s, so grow up!
Hil-LIAR-y Clinton is a conniving, two-faced, liar; she is completely incapable of running the nation because she has never even been capable of running her own life, her previous professions as both the Secretary of State, as well as a lawyer back in the early to middle 70’s, when she was fired for unethical behavior, much less to her ridiculous, farcical marriage to that womanizer, Bill. She is a malehating, powermad b i t ch who will stop at nothing and step on and over anyone who gets in her way to get what she wants.
Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is all man and has supported us right from the very beginning. Again, wake up, fools! You stupid silly q u e e rs won’t get it until one day soon you wake up and you find yourselves without anymore of your power.
You’ll wake up in HELL!!!!!
As a gay man, I believe that much of the gay community is completely out of touch with the Gay community and with their masculinity and with reality anymore. They have always been and always shall be their OWN worst nightmares and enemies! Silly, flippant, farcical, fake, arrogant, weak, and stupid, pantomimic queens like RuPaul, and her ridiculous male-destroying show, all seem to be on a mission to put a c u n t, bra and fresh panties on every man on the face of the earth! May God destroy it all!
Especially gay men anymore; most of whom seem hell bent on giving all of their power away as men to WOE-men, allowing them to tell them what to do, beat on them, manipulate, control, dominate, harass, degrade, kill, and dis-empower them. They dress like woe-men, act like them, behave like them, talk like them, etc. It’s all so goddamned satanic and weird! It’s sucks and it’s insane! Stupid, worthless queens! WAKE UP! Claim your masculinity back before it’s too late. You can be gay and masculine without chopping your d y c k off all the damned time! Just because we’re gay doesn’t mean that you always have to act like disgusting c u n t s, so grow up!
As a gay man, I believe that much of the gay community is completely out of touch with the Gay community and with their masculinity and with reality anymore. They have always been and always shall be their OWN worst nightmares and enemies! Silly, flippant, farcical, fake, arrogant, weak, and stupid, pantomimic queens like RuPaul, and her ridiculous male-destroying show, all seem to be on a mission to put a c u n t, bra and fresh panties on every man on the face of the earth! May God destroy it all!
Especially gay men anymore; most of whom seem h e l l bent on giving all of their power away as men to WOE-men, allowing them to tell them what to do, beat on them, manipulate, control, dominate, harass, degrade, kill, and dis-empower them. They dress like woe-men, act like them, behave like them, talk like them, etc. It’s all so g o d d a m n e d satanic and weird! It’s s u c k s and it’s insane! Stupid, worthless queens! WAKE UP! Claim your masculinity back before it’s too late. You can be gay and masculine without chopping your d y c k off all the damned time! Just because we’re gay doesn’t mean that you always have to act like disgusting c u n t s, so grow up!
Hil-LIAR-y Clinton is a conniving, two-faced, liar; she is completely incapable of running the nation because she has never even been capable of running her own life, her previous professions as both the Secretary of State, as well as a lawyer back in the early to middle 70’s, when she was fired for unethical behavior, much less to her ridiculous, farcical marriage to that womanizer, Bill. She is a malehating, powermad b i t c h who will stop at nothing and step on and over anyone who gets in her way to get what she wants.
Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is all man and has supported us as gay people and gay men right from the very beginning. Again, wake up, fools! You stupid silly q u e e r s are going to far as usually; no self-control, no self-restraint, no self-accountability. Always full speed ahead, loud, silly, sexual and self-destructive guns blazing! You won’t get it until one day soon you wake up and you find yourselves without anymore of your wash-away freedoms and self-emaciated power.
You’ll wake up in HELL!!!!!
Hil-LIAR-y Clinton is a conniving, two-faced, liar; she is completely incapable of running the nation because she has never even been capable of running her own life, her previous professions as both the Secretary of State, as well as a lawyer back in the early to middle 70’s, when she was fired for unethical behavior, much less to her ridiculous, farcical marriage to that womanizer, Bill. She is a malehating, powermad b i t c h who will stop at nothing and step on and over anyone who gets in her way to get what she wants.
Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is all man and has supported us right from the very beginning. Again, wake up, fools! You stupid silly q u e e r s are going to far as usually; no self-control, no self-restraint, no self-accountability. Always full speed ahead, full guns blazing! You won’t get it until one day soon you wake up and you find yourselves without anymore of your wash-away freedoms and self-emaciated power.
You’ll wake up in HELL!!!!!
Hil-LIAR-y Clinton is a conniving, two-faced, liar; she is completely incapable of running the nation because she has never even been capable of running her own life, her previous professions as both the Secretary of State, as well as a lawyer back in the early to middle 70’s, when she was fired for unethical behavior, much less to her ridiculous, farcical marriage to that womanizer, Bill. She is a malehating, powermad b i t c h who will stop at nothing and step on and over anyone who gets in her way to get what she wants.
Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is all man and has supported us as gay people and gay men right from the very beginning. Again, wake up, fools! You stupid silly q u e e r s are going to far as usually; no self-control, no self-restraint, no self-accountability. Always full speed ahead, loud, silly, sexual and self-destructive guns blazing! You won’t get it until one day soon you wake up and you find yourselves without anymore of your wash-away freedoms and self-emaciated power.
You’ll wake up in HELL!!!!!
Hil-LIAR-y Clinton is a conniving, two-faced, liar; she is completely incapable of running the nation because she has never even been capable of running her own life, her previous professions as both the Secretary of State, as well as a lawyer back in the early to middle 70’s, when she was fired for unethical behavior, much less to her ridiculous, farcical marriage to that womanizer, Bill. She is a malehating, powermad b i t c h who will stop at nothing and step on and over anyone who gets in her way to get what she wants.
Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is all man and has supported us as gay people and gay men right from the very beginning. Again, wake up, fools! You stupid silly q u e e r s are going to far as usually; no self-control, no self-restraint, no self-accountability. Always full speed ahead, loud, silly, s e x u a l and self-destructive guns ablaze and blazing, ready to cut anyone down who doesn’t agree with your insane behaviors and licentious lifestyle! You won’t get it until one day soon you wake up and you find yourselves without anymore of your wash-away freedoms and self-emaciated power.
You’ll wake up in HELL!!!!!
Hil-LIAR-y Clinton is a conniving, two-faced, liar; she is completely incapable of running the nation because she has never even been capable of running her own life, her previous professions as both the Secretary of State, as well as a lawyer back in the early to middle 70’s, when she was fired for unethical behavior, much less to her ridiculous, farcical marriage to that womanizer, Bill. She is a malehating, powermad b y t c h who will stop at nothing and step on and over anyone who gets in her way to get what she wants.
Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is all man and has supported us as gay people and gay men right from the very beginning. Again, wake up, fools! You stupid silly q u e e r s are going to far as usually; no self-control, no self-restraint, no self-accountability. Always full speed ahead, loud, silly, s e x u a l and self-destructive guns ablaze and blazing, ready to cut anyone down who doesn’t agree with your insane behaviors and licentious lifestyle! You won’t get it until one day soon you wake up and you find yourselves without anymore of your wash-away freedoms and self-emaciated power.
You’ll wake up in HELL!!!!!
Hil-LIAR-y Clinton is a conniving, two-faced, liar; she is completely incapable of running the nation because she has never even been capable of running her own life, her previous professions as both the Secretary of State, as well as a lawyer back in the early to middle 70’s, when she was fired for unethical behavior, much less to her ridiculous, farcical marriage to that womanizer, Bill. She is a malehating, powermad b**ch who will stop at nothing and step on and over anyone who gets in her way to get what she wants.
Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is all man and has supported us as gay people and gay men right from the very beginning. Again, wake up, fools! You stupid silly queens are going to far as usually; no self-control, no self-restraint, no self-accountability. Always full speed ahead, loud, silly, s e x u a l and self-destructive guns ablaze and blazing, ready to cut anyone down who doesn’t agree with your insane behaviors and licentious lifestyle! You won’t get it until one day soon you wake up and you find yourselves without anymore of your wash-away freedoms and self-emaciated power.
Wake the hell up! Before you wake up in HELL!!!!!
Hil-LIAR-y Clinton is a conniving, two-faced, liar; she is completely incapable of running the nation because she has never even been capable of running her own life, her previous professions as both the Secretary of State, as well as a lawyer back in the early to middle 70’s, when she was fired for unethical behavior, much less to her ridiculous, farcical marriage to that womanizer, Bill. She is a malehating, powermad b**ch who will stop at nothing and step on and over anyone who gets in her way to get what she wants.
Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is all man and has supported us as gay people and gay men right from the very beginning. Again, wake up, fools! You stupid silly queens are going to far as usually; no self-control, no self-restraint, no self-accountability. Always full speed ahead, loud, silly, s e x u a l and self-destructive guns ablaze and blazing, ready to cut anyone down who doesn’t agree with your insane behaviors and licentious lifestyle! You won’t get it until one day soon you wake up and you find yourselves without anymore of your wash-away freedoms and self-emaciated power.
Wake the hell up! Before you wake up in H E L L!!!!!
Hil-LIAR-y Clinton is a conniving, two-faced, liar; she is completely incapable of running the nation because she has never even been capable of running her own life, her previous professions as both the Secretary of State, as well as a lawyer back in the early to middle 70’s, when she was fired for unethical behavior, much less to her ridiculous, farcical marriage to that womanizer, Bill. She is a malehating, powermad witch who will stop at nothing and step on and over anyone who gets in her way to get what she wants.
Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is all man and has supported us as gay people and gay men right from the very beginning. Again, wake up, fools! You stupid silly queens are going to far as usually; no self-control, no self-restraint, no self-accountability. Always full speed ahead, loud, silly, s e x u a l and self-destructive guns ablaze and blazing, ready to cut anyone down who doesn’t agree with your insane behaviors and licentious lifestyle! You won’t get it until one day soon you wake up and you find yourselves without anymore of your wash-away freedoms and self-emaciated power.
Wake the hell up! Before you wake up in H E L L!!!!!
As a gay man, I believe that much of the gay community is completely out of touch with the Gay community and with their masculinity and with reality anymore. They have always been and always shall be their OWN worst nightmares and enemies! Silly, flippant, farcical, fake, HATEFUL, nasty, disgusting, arrogant, weak, and stupid, pantomimic queens like RuPaul, and her ridiculous male-destroying show, all seem to be on a mission to put a c u n t, bra and fresh panties on every man on the face of the earth! May God destroy it all!
Especially gay men anymore; most of whom seem h e l l bent on giving all of their power away as men to WOE-men, allowing them to tell them what to do, beat on them, manipulate, control, dominate, harass, degrade, kill, and dis-empower them. They dress like woe-men, act like them, behave like them, talk like them, etc. It’s all so g o d d a m n e d satanic and weird! It s u c k s and it’s insane! Stupid, worthless queens! WAKE UP! Claim your masculinity back before it’s too late. You can be gay and masculine without chopping your d y c k off all the damned time! Just because we’re gay doesn’t mean that you always have to act like disgusting c u n t s, so grow up!
Hil-LIAR-y Clinton is a conniving, two-faced, liar; she is completely incapable of running the nation because she has never even been capable of running her own life, her previous professions as both the Secretary of State, as well as a lawyer back in the early to middle 70’s, when she was fired for unethical behavior, much less to her ridiculous, farcical marriage to that womanizer, Bill. She is a malehating, powermad witch who will stop at nothing and step on and over anyone who gets in her way to get what she wants.
She never even supported us (GLBTQ Community) until just the last couple of years. She will say anything, do anything, and be anything like Janus, the two headed demon that she, as a Freemason, worships in secret, in order to finally achieve and get what she wants. She’s a straight demon; a lying, crass char.
Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is all man and has supported us as gay people and gay men right from the very beginning. Again, wake up, fools! You stupid silly queens are going too far as usual; no self-control, no self-restraint, no self-accountability. Always full speed ahead, loud, silly, s e x u a l and self-destructive guns ablaze and blazing, ready to cut anyone down who doesn’t agree with your insane behaviors and licentious lifestyle! You won’t get it until one day soon you wake up and you find yourselves without anymore of your wishy-washy-washed-away silliness, social freedoms and self-emaciated power.
Wake the h e l l up! Before you wake up in H E L L!!!!!
Bernie Sanders is an affront to America. With tens of millions dead at the hands of Socialism, how can anyone think that those ideas are good? If you want to be a Democrat (welfare statist), that’s fine–and we can debate every possible issue. But, if you’re a Socialist, kindly move to North Korea where you belong. The LGBT community needs to get its collective head out of the sand: just because a political group is willing to go along with legislation does NOT mean that the political party doing so is “right” to be supported.
I get a headache every time Bernie Sanders goes on about workers’ rights. There are no “workers’ rights”– there are only individual rights. I, as an individual, have chosen to accept or decline the working wages and conditions offered to me by employers willing to employ me. The supporters of Bernie Sanders (and most Democrats, for that matter) favor mob rule and intimidation over reasoned debate and winning people over voluntarily. The vitriol used by Liberals in this country is embarrassing. But, what’s worse is when they simply “legislate the solution” while believing that will be all they need to do. It’s one thing to pass a law– its something else to convince the people that its a GOOD law.
Some laws/decisions need to be passed despite public “opposition”– such as same-sex marriage. But, that is on the grounds of Constitutional consistency, i.e., legislation to right the wrong of unequal treatment before the Law. Most of the Liberal legislative agenda is about expropriation from people Liberals don’t like in order to give more to those who will vote for them. Enough already!
As for the HRC, I can’t support them because they go WAY too far.
Although I have been a long time supporter of both Hillary and the Human Rights Campaign, I agree that the endorsement was a mistake (especially when the explanation given was so general and unspecific). As members of the same political party, democrats don’t need to be creating unnecessary divisions between one another when it comes to LGBT equality. While Sanders certainly championed LGBT rights as a senator, the same can also be said about Hillary’s term as Secretary of State. What really matters though is they are both committed to continuing the fight for LGBT equality in the years to come if elected into office. Let’s not forget the real enemy of LGBT equality are the nominees who want to appoint SCOTUS justices which will reverse same-sex marriage and those who will pass every executive order they can to bring the US back to the stone ages of gay rights when homosexuals weren’t allowed to serve openly in the military or adopt children. With the dangerous, homophobic rhetoric the GOP can’t seem to stop spewing out in the media, democrats need to stick together, not fall apart.