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Tori Amos celebrates 20th anniversary by revisiting her catalogue

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Tori Amos (photo by Danielle Levitt)

Tori Amos is straight but has a strong LGBT fan base. The Bladeā€™s Joey DiGuglielmo is a long-time fan, having worn out a copy of ā€œBoys for Peleā€ in the throes of closeted college-era angst. He talked to her by phone two weeks ago to talk about her new album ā€œGold Dust,ā€ which features orchestral re-workings of 14 of her songs. Itā€™s slated to drop Tuesday in the U.S.

Blade: Hi Tori

Tori Amos: Hi, how are you?

Blade: Iā€™m good. Iā€™m gonna try to cover a lot of ground really quickly so Iā€™m just gonna jump right in. Tell me a little about the relationship you have going with Deutsche Grammophon. This is your second project with them. Are you under contract or are you just doing things on kind of an album-by-album basis?

Amos: Kind of album by album. ā€¦ They came up with the idea of the variations on the masters (last yearā€™s ā€œNight of Huntersā€ album) but when Iā€™d been working with the Metropole Orchestra the year before and they basically said, ā€œWe need recordings of this. This is the 20thĀ anniversary of your work and this is how you do it with an orchestra.ā€ I didnā€™t know, at first, if that made sense, but it seemed to make sense in their German minds. So itā€™s been very organic.

Blade: Iā€™m just wondering how some of these arrangements came about and thinking back to some of those great remixes you had of your stuff back in the late ā€˜90s. Obviously I know remixing is a whole different thing altogether, but in terms of crafting symphonic arrangements or reworkings of your songs ā€” where these songs are very much living in an alternate space from their original studio versions ā€” Iā€™m wondering if any of the same artistic considerations or principles apply as would if youā€™re crafting an alternate version in the form of a remix.

Amos: Wow, thatā€™s a great question. I guess the thing about a remix is you donā€™t have to retain the narrative or even the spirit of the original work in the same way. So the ā€œProfessional Widowā€ remix, for example, became a very different expression of the song from the original. Some of that narrative was there but not the way it was on the (album version). And yet the remix still clearly did its job. But in doing something like this, you donā€™t want to lose the songā€™s story or her narrative in any way, so it was important to really, and sometimes very subtly, make changes. Some of the songs didnā€™t want a makeover. Some of them said, ā€œOnly strings,ā€ or others said, ā€œWeā€™re open to a full orchestra but we donā€™t want to become completely overtaken.ā€ It was almost like you were changing their outfit, but you were not changing their soul. Some were open to a more radical flavor. Like with ā€œFlavor,ā€ for instance, which was originally recorded with loops, it really stepped forward and said, ā€œI want a completely different approach.ā€ Or with ā€œPrecious Things.ā€ It kind of said it thought its narrative could work with a more Prokofiev-inspired approach.

Blade: What was the time frame for this album?

Amos: I was rehearsing (with the Metropole Orhestra) for shows in October, 2010 and then we got back together in early 2011 and began recording some, but then we put it away because we went and did ā€œNight of Huntersā€ with the octet. So that project came first, even though this was the first idea. Then we put the (ā€œGold Dustā€) reels back on, Iā€™d say maybe January 2012 and ā€¦ began editing them together. Overdubs and mixing were finished in July.

Blade: Classical musicians can be notoriously snobby. Did you get any vibe from the Metropole players, even if they never said anything, that they were thinking, ā€œWhy are we doing this ā€” canā€™t somebody bring us some Beethoven or something?ā€ You do all kinds of stuff, obviously, but the grand scheme of things, your songs would be considered in more of the pop idiom than classical.

Amos: It was really a collaboration with them and I think the reason Alex (Burh, the Deutsche Grammophon exec who suggested ā€œNight of Huntersā€) suggested it is because he could tell there was a real conversation happening during the rehearsals (for the 2010 concert). There was definitely an affinity and a back-and-forth-type thing that was going on and I think that was why the decision was made to document and record it. There was a chemistry.

Blade: Youā€™ve done a few theme projects now ā€” a holiday album, some concept albums, a classical album, now orchestral reworkings of your songs. Do you have a private bucket list of stuff you want to eventually do? Iā€™m not even necessarily asking what all those projects might be, but do you think, ā€œWell, before I hang up my hat, I definitely want to do ā€” blank.ā€ Does your artistic mind work that way?

Amos: Yes, it thinks that way. I think right now Iā€™m really focused on the musical, ā€œThe Light Princess.ā€ Nick Hytner is very much a powerful force at the National Theatre in Great Britain and so hopefully the plan or the idea is that the piece will be ready to get put on its feet within, oh I donā€™t know, a year, maybe a little over a year. Thatā€™s what I have on my brain right now. But yeah, I approach things as a conceptualist and there are all kinds of thoughts that have come into my mind. I would love to someday do something where I just stay someplace and perform. I donā€™t know if youā€™d call it an evening in Las Vegas or what, but with a story and dancers. I would love to do something at Caesarā€™s Palace someday. And not just campy, you know, but maybe a bit of camp, but I love the idea of having dancers ā€” not me dancing, I would be playing and singing ā€” but have some dancers onstage and just make it an incredibly entertaining evening. Very much an old-school variety show with great costumes and an old Hollywood feel. Something like from the ā€˜30s or ā€˜40s where you get dressed up and come to a show and have dinner and walk away feeling like youā€™ve had a really glamorous evening.

Blade: Well, I would definitely come see it, that sounds fun. One thing Iā€™ve always really admired about you is that you donā€™t always make things easy on the fans or present the material in such a way that itā€™s easy or accessible for the most casual fan, to say nothing of the material itself. Iā€™m talking about things like those Icon or Playlist anthology CDs where they throw them together for all kinds of artists and make them something thatā€™s meant to be a $7.99 impulse purchase in the checkout lane at Target. You never do things like that. And Iā€™m not even saying itā€™s necessarily a bad thing ā€¦.

Amos: (interjects) ā€¦ It is bad.

Blade: OK, why? Couldnā€™t you argue that it might pique someoneā€™s curiosity and inspire them to then go dig deeper?

Amos: Iā€™m telling you, itā€™s sinning against your art. Thatā€™s what youā€™re doing. Itā€™s lazy.

Blade: Do you have business people approach you with these kinds of ideas?

Amos: Well, you know. There are all kinds of ideas that get spun about. But you have to have it in your head whether itā€™s a good idea or not. How are you going to feel about it in three months, in six months? What kind of statement does it make about you as an artist? And hey, sometimes I understand why they release these anthologies because something like (ā€œGold Dustā€), I mean this takes a LOT of time to do. We started October 2010 so weā€™re talking two years from inception to this. It started with them inviting me to come play a show but it didnā€™t matter if it was one show or 200 shows or if we recorded the arrangements or not, the work still had to be done. The arrangements still had to be made for, like, 20 songs. (Arranger) John Philip Shenale and I were in touch everyday about this for one show, which is all I initially thought it was going to be. Not for one second did I think this would end up being a studio album. They invited me for this before the Alex, the German musicologist, invited me to come start messing with the masters. So that was the genesis and the time frame and doing a project like this with an orchestra is really tricky because people have attachments to the original versions. You really want to retain the soul of the song girl and like I said, some didnā€™t want extreme makeovers. That wasnā€™t really the challenge. Itā€™s not about trying to shock people or try to decide how different you can make it. Thatā€™s almost too easy. Itā€™s easy to shock people that way, to turn something totally on its head. I think whatā€™s much trickier to do is to subtle because subtle changes can also become real banal and lifeless if youā€™re not careful.

Blade: I interviewed Sophie B. Hawkins a few weeks ago, who has a fabulous new album out by the way. I highly recommend it. Iā€™m wondering if you feel any sense of sisterhood or artistic kinship with other women who came along in the ā€˜90s about the same time you did. Youā€™ve managed to continue to forge ahead against the odds, while so many artists from that time have seen their audience dry up or move on. What advice would you give to other women who are highly talented musicians and still feel they have something great to offer?

Amos: It is really tough out there and itā€™s culturally tough because the masses seem to be gravitating to the next people and artists are seen as very disposable. They want to move on to whomever is next instead of growing with them. I have always wanted to grow with the artists and jump on the train with them. I wanted to know what they were experiencing and wanted to be seen as their patron. Thatā€™s how I think of my audience ā€” I very much see them as my patrons, the people who come to my shows. Because without them, I couldnā€™t keep going. Also, philosophically, people seem to be of the mindset often, that itā€™s OK to just take something. I would never go to a wine show and slip a bottle of wine in my bag when the vendor wasnā€™t looking but people have talked themselves into thinking that thatā€™s OK. Meanwhile orchestras are shutting down and you have ā€¦ very accomplished musicians thinking about how theyā€™re going to make a living doing their art. This is what Iā€™m hearing from a lot of musicians. Do I have an answer? No, I donā€™t. I think itā€™s a cultural crisis.

Blade: Isnā€™t it partly short attention spans too?

Amos: Well yes, that and not wanting to grow. I would like to say that eventually people will realize how sad it is and that it will turn itself around but one of the reasons for the short attention spans is these shows where the next crop is waiting in the wings for its 15 minutes. These shows are making a lot of money but they donā€™t care about these singers. All they care about is the next show. Nobody is nurturing these artists.

Blade: A lot of people tape your shows and trade them around. Are you OK with that as long as theyā€™re not trying to profit off them? Say they couldnā€™t make it to the show in Denver and you did this new song ā€” which has always been one of the cool things about you, that your set list changes all the time.

Amos: I donā€™t have a problem with that but please, use good mics! Now obviously, if youā€™re trying to sell it, then I have a problem. I think my community knows how it goes. They know where I stand on stuff like that. Iā€™ve even had people tell me they knew somebody who fell on hard times and couldnā€™t go to one of the shows. OK, but one day when you can, give back. I support the arts. Like visual artists ā€” I go to galleries and support artists all the time.

Blade: I have a somewhat self-indulgent question Iā€™m gonna squeeze in here but maybe it will apply to some other fans too. I play in a church so the challenge really becomes digesting so much new music all the time. What advice would you give to a church pianist or organist where thereā€™s never time to polish anything or let it settle into the brain or fingers before youā€™re onto the stuff for next Sunday?

Amos: I think you should all be revisiting things on some kind of a rotating schedule. So maybe you revisit something, say, three months later and it becomes part of your repertoire and that way you develop a repertoire. I donā€™t think things just have to be performed one time. People will say, ā€œOh, I recognize that, I like that piece.ā€

Blade: I guess the cynic in me thinks theyā€™ll think, ā€œOh, that again ā€” he must have had a busy week.ā€

Amos: Well, OK, I guess some might think that but you canā€™t lie to yourself. The only other thing you can do is carve out more rehearsal time for yourself, but yeah, I can imagine it is tough.

Blade: Are you a keeper by nature? Do you have clothes from old video shoots and, like, all the ā€œDoll Posseā€ wigs and stuff like that?

Amos: Yes, I have all that. And yes, (daughter) Tash dresses up in them all the time.

Blade: How many pianos do you own?

Amos: Well thatā€™s tough to say because I have a deal with Bosendorfer so I can trade them out.

Blade: I canā€™t imagine what your tuning bill must be.

Amos: Well, we have different tuners in different countries. The Bosendorfer at the beach house in Florida, we have this lovely lady who has this twinkle in her eye. And then thereā€™s the one where we record in Cornwall. But Ann has gotten the Florida one where it doesnā€™t need as much because itā€™s not being recorded. Sheā€™s really got it stable right now and itā€™s not being moved, so it tends to hold its tuning pretty well. When weā€™re recording, we tune once a week.

Blade: I love the new album, thanks so much for your time.

Amos: You take care honey, thanks.

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ā€˜Hand to Godā€™ showcases actors and their puppets

Luke Hartwood serves as designer, coach for Keegan production

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Luke Hartwood in ā€˜Hand to Godā€™ at Keegan Theatre. (Photo by Kodie Storey)

ā€˜Hand to Godā€™
Feb. 1-March 2
Keegan Theatre
1742 Church St., N.W.
$49-$59
Keegantheatre.org

Luke Hartwood has loved puppets for as long as he can remember. 

At 24, heā€™s indulging his passion as puppet designer/coach and properties designer for Keegan Theatreā€™s production of Robert Askinsā€™ ā€œHand to God.ā€ Itā€™s the Tony-nominated comedy about meek Jason who after the death of his father finds an outlet for his anxiety at the Christian Puppet Ministry in small town Texas.

Puppets begin as a design team collaboration, Hartwood explains, and move on from there. With ā€œHand to God,ā€ the playwrightā€™s notes describe Jasonā€™s badly behaved puppet Tyrone as looking ā€œElmo-y and shit,ā€ but beyond that thereā€™s room for some interpretation. 

Hartwood, who is gay and Asian American, graduated from George Mason University in May 2023. He majored in theater with a double concentration in performance and design/technology, and minored in graphic design. 

ā€œWith all my varied interests thatā€™s what made sense to me,ā€ he says. ā€œIt wasnā€™t easy but now Iā€™m a flexible candidate when interviewing for work. Iā€™m skilled in design and the physical fabrication of puppets. And I also act.ā€

Based in Northern Virginia, heā€™s been with his partner for six years. Recently, Hartwood shared his thoughts on puppetry and what he wants from the future. 

WASHINGTON BLADE: Whatā€™s the attraction to puppets?

LUKE HARTWOOD:  Iā€™ve always loved puppets. It started as a kid watching cartoons, Iā€™d pause the TV get out a sheet of paper and draw a character, usually PokĆ©mon and Digimon. I learned to use shapes, rounded or sharp edges depending if I wanted to make it cute or scary. I moved from 2-D to 3-D using cereal boxes to give dimension to the drawings. Once I carved a character into the wood of my momā€™s sideboard. She wasnā€™t happy.

BLADE: Were puppets your way into theater? 

HARTWOOD: Not exactly. Despite some fear, I started acting when I was a sophomore in high school. I was a shy kid, but I wanted to be in theater. With me, I also brought my love of art and soon began working on props. It wasnā€™t unusual to see me in costume backstage between scenes building props. 

BLADE: And you continued in college?

HARTWOOD: Mine was the dreaded COVID college experience and the creation of Zoom theater. When we finally came back to live theater, my stage fright returned too. But I got past that and acted in ā€œYouā€™re a Good Man, Charlie Brownā€ [Hartwood was cast as the titular blockhead]. Itā€™s a low-tech show; I did cutouts in the style of Peanuts characters. That was fun. 

BLADE:  With ā€œHand to Godā€ at Keegan youā€™re really multitasking. Tell me a little bit about working with actors. 

HARTWOOD:  During casting, the actors were asked to bring a sock to use as a puppet. Not to show expertise but to prove some potential. 

Actor Drew Sharpe plays both Jason and his puppet Tyrone throughout the show; itā€™s like patting your head and rubbing your tummy at the same time. 

We start with basics. But then we retrain the way an actor thinks about a puppet. Not only is he marking up his script with his own blocking and intentions, but heā€™s also doing the same thing for his puppet. Itā€™s playing two roles simultaneously. Iā€™m in awe of how quickly Drew has learned and improved over the last few weeks.

BLADE: Does being queer affect your project choices? 

HARTWOOD: I try to incorporate my queerness into theater. For a while I didnā€™t know how to do that. Iā€™m not writing plays or activist pieces, but Iā€™m selective of what shows I do. I like to dedicate time to shows I care about, particularly those involving the queer and POC communities. Sometimes that means working with a smaller theater and not getting paid as much.

BLADE: Is money a concern? 

HARTWOOD: I recently quit my full-time corporate job as a business analyst at a government contracting company to focus fully on theater. If Iā€™m going to spend 40 hours of my week doing something I better love it. 

I was picturing myself in 10, 20, or 30 years. If I push my artistry now, thereā€™s more time for me to become successful or to get my big break. 

Also, I just graduated from bartending school. That should help pay the bills. 

BLADE: How does ā€œHand to Godā€ jibe with your professional ethos? 

HARTWOOD: Really well. Though not explicitly written for the queer community or POC, it explores grief, toxic masculinity and what it means to be ā€œman enough.ā€ And that resonates with a lot of queer folks. 

And, Iā€™m definitely here for the puppets 

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Books

Telling the Randy Shilts story

Remembering the book that made America pay attention to AIDS

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(Book cover image courtesy Chicago Review Press)

ā€˜When the Band Played Onā€™
By Michael G. Lee
c.2025, Chicago Review Press
$30/282 pages

You spent most of your early career playing second fiddle.

But nowĀ youā€™ve got the baton, and a story to tell that people arenā€™t going to want to hear,Ā though itā€™s essentialĀ that theyĀ face the music.Ā They mustĀ know whatā€™s happening. As in the new bookĀ ā€œWhen the Band Played Onā€ by Michael G. Lee,Ā this time, itā€™s personal.

Born in 1951 in small-town Iowa, Randy Shilts was his alcoholic, abusive motherā€™s third of six sons. Frustrated, drunk, she reportedly beat Shilts almost daily when he was young; she also called him a ā€œsissy,ā€ which ā€œseemed to follow Randy everywhere.ā€

Perhaps because of the abuse, Shilts had to ā€œteach himself social graces,ā€ developing ā€œadultlike impassivenessā€ and ā€œbiting sarcasm,ā€ traits that featured strongly as he matured and became a writer. He was exploring his sexuality then, learning ā€œthe subtleties of sexual communication,ā€ while sleeping with women before fully coming out as gay to friends.

Nearing his 21st birthday, Shilts moved to Oregon to attend college and to ā€œallow myself love.ā€ There, he became somewhat of an activist before leaving San Francisco to fully pursue journalism, focusing on stories of gay life that were ā€œmostly unknown to anyone outside of gay culture.ā€

He would bounce between Oregon and California several times, though he never lost sight of his writing career and, through it, his activism. In both states, Shilts reported on gay life, until he was well known to national readers and gay influencers. After San Francisco supervisor Harvey Milk was assassinated, he was tapped to write Milkā€™s biography.

By 1982, Shilts was in love, had a book under his belt, a radio gig, and a regular byline in a national publication reporting ā€œon the GRID beat,ā€ an acronym later changed to AIDS. He was even under contract to write a second book.

But Shilts was careless. Just once, careless.

ā€œIn hindsight,ā€ says Lee, ā€œā€¦ it was likely the night when Randy crossed the line, becoming more a part of the pandemic than just another worried bystander.ā€

Perhaps not surprisingly, there are two distinct audiences for ā€œWhen the Band Played On.ā€ One type of reader will remember the AIDS crisis and the seminal book about it. The other is too young to remember it, but needs to know Randy Shiltsā€™s place in its history.

The journey may be different, but the result is the same: author Michael G. Lee tells a complicated, still-controversial story of Shilts and the book that made America pay attention, and itā€™s edgy for modern eyes. Lee clearly shows why Shilts had fans and haters, why Shilts was who he was, and Lee keeps some mystery in the tale. Shilts had the knowledge to keep himself safe but he apparently didnā€™t, and readers are left to wonder why. Thereā€™s uncomfortable tension in that, and a lot of hypothetical thinking to be had.

For scholars of gay history, this is an essential book to read. Also, for anyone too young to remember AIDS as it was, ā€œWhen the Band Played Onā€ hits the right note.

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2025 is the year to prioritize LGBTQ wellness

Community center hosts workshop ‘prioritizing self-care & community care’

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The DC LGBTQ+ Community Center will host ā€œPrioritizing Self-Care & Community Care in 2025 Workshopā€ on Wednesday, Jan. 22 at 7 p.m.

This will be an engaging conversation about how to prioritize self-care and community care in the upcoming year. This one-hour workshop will be facilitated by Program Director & Psychotherapist Jocelyn Jacoby. This workshop is designed to be a place where LGBTQ people can be in community with each other as the community grapples with fear and hope and comes up with practical ways to promote resiliency.

Registration for this event is mandatory and can be accessed on the DC Centerā€™s website.Ā 

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