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Bianca Del Rio brings show to D.C.

‘Drag Race’ diva thumbing her ‘Rolodex of Hate’

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Bianca Del Rio says winning ‘Drag Race’ opened many doors. (Photo by Magnus Hastings)

Bianca Del Rio

 

‘Rolodex of Hate’

 

Saturday, Nov. 14

 

9 p.m.

 

Lincoln Theatre

 

1215 U St. N.W.

 

$20-75

 

ticketfly.com

 

Though she’s performed at Capital Pride, had a monthly show at Town and brought her show to the Fillmore in Silver Spring in February, this weekend is the first time Bianca Del Rio (aka Roy Haylock), the “RuPaul’s Drag Race” season six winner, will perform her “Rolodex of Hate” show in Washington proper.

During a rare break from the road, we caught up with the famously insulting insult comic. Her comments have been slightly edited for length.

 

WASHINGTON BLADE: What did you have on your face during the season seven finale? That was quite a look.

BIANCA DEL RIO: Just glitter. I just covered myself in it and thought it was a brilliant idea until that night when I tried to get it all off. It was like that scene in “Silkwood.” … But that’s television, so it’s all good.

 

BLADE: Tapings can take forever. Did you have to sit around all day in that getup?

BIANCA: It starts out pretty early, like 5 or 6 and I did the pre-show as myself that aired on World of Wonder’s YouTube channel … that I hosted with a live audience. And then we went to the actual taping so I had a couple of hours because they film all of them talking, all the confessionals, you know how TV is. Stop, wait, stop, wait, stop, wait. So I had a couple of hours, but it wasn’t bad. I was backstage schmoozing.

 

BLADE: Who were you rooting for on season seven?

BIANCA: Well with my schedule and not necessarily being in the U.S. all the time, it was very difficult to watch the show so I just caught up whenever I could.

 

BLADE: What do you think of Violet Chachki? Is she a worthy successor?

BIANCA: Violet’s a lovely girl. I think before the show, my immediate attraction was to Ginger (Minj) because of her sense of humor, but since then I’ve gotten to meet all three of them and Violet’s quite lovely and, you know, she’s got it together. She’s 23, 24, she’s gorgeous and that’s really the great thing about the show, all of us have a different path so it’s great to see the good things that have come her way.

 

BLADE: You’re a noticeable absence on the new “Christmas Queens” album. Surely you were approached.

BIANCA: I was asked but I didn’t really want to sing. It’s not my forte. But I hear it’s quite lovely. I bought it but I haven’t listened to it yet.

 

BLADE: On your season, I got so tired of hearing Adore whine about not being able to sew and, to a lesser degree, Ginger on this last season. Why would anybody go on “Drag Race” and not learn to sew first? Or at least take a crash course after you turned your tape in?

BIANCA: Well, it’s difficult to try to explain other people. It’s like going to the Olympics. You know what you’re going to be doing to get to the medal and so you need to have some level of skill when it comes to singing, dancing, acting, sewing and comedy. Basically, that’s the format of the show. You don’t have to master all of them, but you have to have some proficiency because you know that’s going to be asked of you. … We’ve had people who’ve won or gotten to the finals at least without necessarily having those skills but for me, I tried to be as prepared as possible. But then I’m older than everyone else so I’ve kind of done all those things at different points in my life. … I hated the lip syncing but others couldn’t wait to do that.

 

BLADE: If you’re good, like you, you might not have to lip sync but you know you’re going to have to sew.

BIANCA: Well that’s true. But not everyone who goes on that show is that smart. You’ve seen that. No names, but yeah.

 

BLADE: You’re returning to some markets. The tour must be going well, no?

BIANCA: We didn’t expect the show to be as successful as it’s been. I’ve been traveling with it since last November. Because I was new, quote-unquote, the producer would give me dates and if they sold out, we would get more dates. So it’s been over a year almost now and we’ve been all over the world. … We’ll end the show with D.C., El Paso and Oklahoma City, all cities I had not visited. … There are so many cities. I’m like, “Oh shit, have I been there?” I only know by the airports. I’m just there a day or a night and then out the next day so it gets blurred.

 

BLADE: What’s next?

BIANCA: We’ll leave “Rolodex” on a high note and then there are other projects I’m working on as well. I’ll free up some time and re-focus on what’s coming up next. Then I’m writing my new show, which will premiere next summer in Australia.

 

BLADE: Tell us about “Hurricane Bianca.”

BIANCA: That was in the works before I did “Drag Race.” A friend of mine, Matt Kugelman, had written a feature film that he wanted to do with me. I didn’t write it. It’s not my movie, quote unquote, but he involved me. We were crowd funding with Go Fund Me and in the middle of that, I got “Drag Race.” So I had to go into seclusion and do the show and I couldn’t talk about it for some time but then once the show started airing, we continued the crowd funding and through the generous support of many people who watched the show and donated, we were able to film this summer, which was a wonderful experience. It was 18 days for me, off and on, to film. There are lots of great people in it. The amazingly talented Rachel Dratch, Alan Cumming, Shangela Laquifa Wadley, RuPaul and Margaret Cho.

 

BLADE: Are you friends with RuPaul? Do you have his cell number?

BIANCA: No. I don’t think any of us have that kind of relationship with Ru. It’s not like that. I speak with Michelle (Visage) and since the show, we travel a lot and we did “Battle of the Seasons” together, the show with all of us. We’ve become chummy, so we’re closer. Ru’s schedule is pretty intense. He’s on like 45 different TV shows right now. When we see each other, it’s always very cordial and nice. I got to do the podcast and the (season seven) finale and participate in all of that, but chummy? No. That’s not necessarily the way it worked.

 

BLADE: I sort of picture the winners being in this very exclusive club where you all hang out and have dinner parties at Ru’s house and stuff like that, but I guess that’s not realistic.

BIANCA: I wouldn’t turn it down but what most people fail to realize is when you get on “Drag Race,” your life is set and it’s really taxing. And I’m one of those people who says yes to every gig, every benefit, every bingo, every bar mitzvah, every funeral, whatever. It’s been great for me … but you still have to work. I haven’t stopped. I took one week of vacation for my 40th birthday in June but since then it’s just been a whirlwind, which I’m grateful for, it’s opened many doors and it’s there for the taking if you want it.

 

BLADE: Obviously you wanted to win, but was there any elimination on season six you hated to see or someone you thought got eliminated too early?

BIANCA: I felt the proper choices were made for what it was. … Now when you watched the show and you say, “Oh, I didn’t know that,” or “I didn’t know she was saying that or that was her problem,” you don’t really get all that information while you’re taping. But I felt everything was justified at the time.

 

BLADE: You kind of took Trinity K. Bonet under your wing and she bristled somewhat. Have you seen her since the show?

BIANCA: Oh yeah, we all chat. Of course I’m closest with Courtney, Adore and Darienne because we traveled a lot together and get to see each other quite often but with Trinity, every time I’ve been in Atlanta, she comes to see me. I don’t really get to hang out or see any of the shows she’s been in … but every now and then, we check in and find out where everyone is and what’s going on. It’s kind of this odd little misfit group of people that have experiences you can only share with so many people because no one else can really relate to that. Like last summer we did “Battle of the Seasons” with me, Sharon, Jinkx, Alaska. We don’t get to do many of those, but when we do, it’s a wild ride.

 

BLADE: Has drag been a dating impediment?

BIANCA: I’ve had two very long relationships while doing drag. Not “Drag Race,” but before. It’s not really anything I want in my life at this point. I’m focusing on what I have going on. It’s interesting to see how people treat you. I’m doing exactly what I’ve always done, just on a grander scale. … Maybe if I were 20, I’d be more obsessed with that. I’ve had lovely boyfriends and things didn’t work out for a reason and I’m OK with where I am now. Sometimes you don’t know if they really like you or just want to borrow your dress.

 

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Bianca says her ‘Drag Race’ strategy was to be ‘as prepared as possible.’ (Photo by Magnus Hastings)

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What ‘Queer Eye for the Straight Guy’ can still teach us

Producer David Collins on lasting impact of hit series

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It’s hard to imagine where LGBTQ+ television would be without “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy,” the trailblazing reality series that premiered in 2003. 

Each episode of this Emmy-winning show saw a group of gays converge on a struggling man — the titular straight guy — and offer nonstop wit while organizing his endlessly messy life. This program about a group of homosexual helpers took the world by storm, furthering the love of gay television begun by shows like “Will and Grace” but bringing it into the growing medium of reality TV. Of course, it wasn’t perfect; “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy” often cast its experts less as multi-faceted queer folks and more as sources of early 2000s gay jokes. But despite these pitfalls, it’s undeniable that the original program explored the realities of being gay in a way audiences had never seen before. It was a monumental piece of LGBTQ+ representation, and its success is largely owed to the man who fought to get this show made: producer David Collins. 

Collins spoke with the Blade from his Los Angeles home, where he’s spent the past few years living with his husband and his two daughters. David spoke fondly of his many years in the industry, detailing how it feels to be such a huge part of LGBTQ+ history. He explained, however, that he didn’t initially set out to alter how queer people were seen on television. “I never went out to make gay television,” said the producer. “I went out to tell great stories.”

“I’m a hillbilly from Ohio, and I thought I was going to be an editor,” David laughed, looking back on his career. “I interned at the Cincinnati Film Office, and I showed up to work my very first day, and the film commissioner was like, ‘Get to the airport right now and pick [someone] up. Don’t talk to them.’ Well, I ended up picking up Jodie Foster.” Collins raved about this car ride that changed his life, with the pair becoming friends and Foster pushing him to become a producer who puts their own media out into the world. Eventually, he did just that, and after learning about the wild new genre that was reality TV, he pitched a series to Bravo: “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.” 

“I was obsessed with Esquire magazine, and they had five categories: fashion, grooming, interior design, culture, food, and wine. So I gave them each a gay, and the Fab Five were born!” Collins said, describing how viewers quickly fell in love with the concept and earned the program four seasons and an Emmy for Outstanding Reality Program. He spoke about how proud he felt creating a show that centered real gay people, not characters in a story, remembering, “To stand in the middle of Times Square and look up and see this massive billboard with the original Queer Eye guys…it wasn’t even a dream come true, because it wasn’t a dream I had even fathomed.”

With his series, people were watching actual gay men and learning the realities of a queer culture that had always been portrayed as a danger to society. Collins tearfully recounted hearing about queer people using the show as a way to connect with their family, saying, “What I’m most proud of that’s come out of Queer Eye [are] the conversations that that series has allowed to have people around their kitchen tables with little boys in Ohio like me who were scared to death that they were going to burn in hell because their pastor was telling them that they were a sinner.”

Now, for all of its trailblazing, the program wasn’t wholly positive; the show’s focus on the central ‘straight guy’ meant it rarely delved into the lives of its Fab Five. Collins regretted that lack of depth but understood that earlier audiences weren’t accustomed to such a nuanced look into queerness — that would have to wait for the reboot. 

When “Queer Eye” came out in 2018, audiences were introduced to not only a new Fab Five, but a whole new format (that didn’t rely on a straight person). Now, the series would assist queer folks and allies alike, spotlighting these individuals as well as the queer experts helping them improve their lives. The show has been applauded for its amazing makeovers, but where it truly stands out is its representation, offering a look into individuals across the country and the struggles — along with the immense joys — of being queer in America today.

Fans were disappointed to hear that “Queer Eye” would be ending after its 10th season, but David stressed that they wouldn’t have to be sad for long. “What I will say to you is this: hang tight,” he teased. “There’s yet another version of ‘Queer Eye’ to come, and we’re working on that now.” In the meantime, Collins is continuing his work with new shows like the “House of Stassi,” a series centered on “Vanderpump Rules’”prolific waitress. He’s excited about these new projects, but emphasized that his heart will always belong to “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy” and all that it continues to do for viewers 19 years after its finale. 

“It’s not about your new outfit or your new couch or your new whatever. It’s about your humanity,” said Collins, speaking about the core lesson he hopes people take away from the Queer Eye franchise. “It’s about seeing yourself. It’s about dignity. It’s about how confidence breeds success.”

A valuable message that queer folks can benefit from even more now than they did in 2003. And, while it’s unclear just what lies ahead for this franchise, one thing is for sure: “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy” helped people everywhere understand the power that exists within our queerness. It’s a truth that has impacted countless pieces of LGBTQ+ television today, and it’s one that Collins promises to keep alive through whatever hit show he creates next. 

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Jason DePuy on coping with homophobia in ‘Big Brother’ house

First drag queen contestant on CBS show fought to stay positive

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One week after Jason DePuy (known as Salina EsTitties on “RuPaul’s Drag Race”) was bullied and eventually evicted from CBS’s “Big Brother” house, the queer drag performer is still emotionally processing his feelings.

During his 24 days in the reality TV competition, DePuy often had a rough time, with fellow cast member Kamuela “Kamu” Kirk making homophobic comments and feeling isolated.

In a conversation with Head of Household Rick Devens, Kirk left viewers upset when he said, “Bro, miss me with the drag stuff. Miss me. I’m still an MMA guy, and I have an image to uphold.”

Former “Big Brother” contestant Frankie Grande called his words  ‘homophobic’ and ‘gross.’ Another comment, where Kirk said he wanted to end DePuy’s career, also received strong backlash online.

Now that he is out of the house, DePuy has been shocked and deeply touched by the love from “Big Brother” fans and former contestants. We chatted with DePuy for this Blade exclusive.

“To know that my community was rallying for me outside the house was the most wonderful thing. Seeing how much people were just wanting to shower me with love was incredible. Even my friends, I went to say hi and give them a hug, and they’re like, ‘Uh, uh, come here.’ They had to hold me and let me know America was feeling for me in a way that I had no idea.”

He added: “To see that reality was just overwhelming, and I couldn’t ask for more.”

Known as a messy player in the house, DePuy often had to fight to stay positive and stand up for himself. 

“No one was coming to my rescue. In real life, it’s easy to block people, but in the house, I didn’t have that luxury, so I had to find it within myself to learn how to speak up for myself in a way that wasn’t nasty or biting. I didn’t attack anyone personally, which is what I was the most proud of.”

DePuy acknowledged he has had a history of putting his foot in his mouth when it came to certain “Drag Race”moments, being in the public eye, and making a fool of himself. “I’ve learned my lessons; to see how I handled myself in the ‘Big Brother’ house was amazing.” 

While DePuy has been sober for 14 and a half years and has a strong spiritual foundation, in the Big Brother house, he often felt like he couldn’t communicate what he was feeling. 

“As a queer person, a person of color, a drag queen, I have to be very careful about how I move. I don’t have the luxury or privilege to just act a certain way or say a certain thing. I have to be very careful; I’m representing me. But who I am is a Latino, a person of recovery, a drag queen, a queer person in the community. I know that there’s a lot of pressure that comes with that. I felt it was safer for me to sit there and just breathe than try to do anything crazy.”

He continued: “I couldn’t speak to the personal attack that was happening in the house, because in my mind I was like, ‘no, this is a game, and I have to play it, put that aside.’”

Not only can viewers watch the episodes, but they can also watch the live feeds of what’s happening. Seeing the fans’ social media posts from people who had watched the episodes and the live feeds also contributed to DePuy realizing that his feelings of discomfort were valid.

“To know that I wasn’t delusional in those moments, that others could see what was happening, has been a lot to take in. Fans and friends let me know the comments made went beyond the game…I’m like, ‘Oh, so my instincts were correct.”

One of the most poignant moments on the live feeds occurred when DePuy was crying, alone in his room, and said how he missed his gay community.

“I really missed my friends. I missed my queer community. We’re so colorful. We’re so loud. We’re so vibrant. We speak off the cuff, and we’re very truthful and honest with how we speak, and it’s fun. We have fun lingo.”

DePuy had to censor his expressions in the house. “Because I can say one thing, but it can mean something different to straight people than it does with my queer brothers and sisters. So, there was a sense of code-switching that I had to do. I had to even put aside some of my queerness in a way sometimes to fit in.”

DePuy was thrilled to be the very first drag queen to ever be cast on the show. 

“I’m honored to have been chosen. There’s a million drag queens out there, and to know that I was a contender to come in the house and not even be in drag was like a wow for me. I’m over here in Hollywood, running around these streets with a wig and heels just to make a dollar to survive, and I have to rely on drag to do that. And then to be offered this opportunity and be given the privilege to say, ‘hey, you don’t have to put on the wig for you to be valuable here,’ is just insane to me.”

Prior to his shows, DePuy has been hustling for 15 years, flipping burgers and doing drag at night.

“That has been my life these past since I was 17. So it’s been a long journey; the opportunity to do this out of drag is a very big blessing. I’m honored and grateful to be the representation of my community.”

If you missed Jason on “Big Brother: Unlocked,” the episode can be seen on CBS.com. He will be back on the show for the finale.

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Rainbows in Revolt on a mission to make LGBTQ artists’ voices heard

Rainbows in Revolt on a mission to make LGBTQ artists’ voices heard

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Lily Erin, one of Rainbows in Revolt’s signature artists, performed at Capital Pride in June. (Photo courtesy of Rainbows in Revolt)

Last month’s Pride celebration in D.C. was so fun. Walking around my first Capital Pride with a $15 lemonade I was loving the madness and the color. Artists and small businesses battling banks you’ve never heard of collecting your personal information so you can spin a wheel to snag free merch. Great music blaring, people actually smiling and enjoying themselves, the “Great” American State Fair could never!

The Monument Stage was on Pennsylvania Avenue, directly in front of the National Gallery of Art and I can’t think of a better venue to see live music. How does someone get on the lineup for Pride? How do we accelerate the visibility of the most talented voices in our community to perform in places like this?

There is certainly not a talent gap, but there is a visibility gap. Chappell Roan went from playing for two people in a parking lot to owning the main stage at Coachella in one year. Whether it is shadowbanning or bias in AI, algorithms have been shown to suppress queer artists. In a digital age, how can queer people break through and show the world how talented they are?

Allison and Matt of Rainbows in Revolt are on a mission to make openly LGBTQ+ artists’ voices heard. Their goal is to find “musicians whose queerness is central to their identity as an artist,” and accelerate them to a place where they can actually reach fans.

The only time queer events seem to be in the spotlight is June, but this should be year round, according to Allison and Matt. Rainbows in Revolt wants to act as a “nucleus” for different sub-communities, finding common ground in the universal language of music.

Matt and Allison founded Rainbows as a way to make cheaper, higher quality merchandise for queer artists. While Rainbows has already pledged 20% of their profits to the LGBTQ+ community, with 10% to Whitman-Walker Health and 10% to LGBTQ+ organizations in need, this is just the beginning of the work that they do.

Rainbows “does the dirty work” that artists normally struggle to do on their own with limited resources. Interviews, artist profiles, social promotion, playlist discovery, radio outreach, and merch-funded support. This work is normally expensive, time consuming, and requires lots of different skills. Musicians don’t want to be editing clips to post online. Standup comedians don’t want to make graphics for their tour dates. They want to write more. They want to focus on their craft.

In addition to helping artists find their audience, Rainbows has built other digital tools to help queer people connect, including an interactive Safe Space Map for most major cities. It is hard to know which places are truly safe and supportive just from a simple Google search. Attitudes and actions change, and there should be a simple way for queer people to find other places that align with them. The Safe Spaces Maps are all up to date, and are tagged and filterable. Instead of relying on forums and word of mouth, Rainbows has created a centralized way to find authentic community quickly.

I had a chance to talk with Allison and Matt at Pride where Lily Erin, one of their signature artists, was performing on the Monument stage. Lily Erin is a folk singer who is familiar and forging her own path. Her bittersweet sound echoes through Acadia, and her garb mirrors the New England athletes I grew up with. Gorp Core meets streetwear. A graphic tee, hiking shorts, and creamsicle Jordans.

Her debut single, “Bus Stop,” tells a sad story about unconditional love, and the conditions that still seem to come with it. Graduating into lockdown, Erin needed a new way to connect with herself and others. Lily made “Bus Stop” without an intention to share it, but doing so was a liberation. People have been responding to her honesty around queer-ness, family, and the “ghosts which haunt us” even in the daytime.

Rainbows in Revolt has helped Lily Erin go from bars and backyards to The Monument Stage at Pride. This is a meteoric rise, and a testament to both Erin’s talent and the work of Rainbows to promote her. “A little encouragement goes a long way with early artists,” and by “planting a seed” Rainbows is already seeing their artist garden grow. Community is power, and Erin is a perfect example of how effective simple modern techniques of promotion can be.

A next step for Rainbows is putting on shows themselves. On Oct. 3, Rainbows in Revolt will host an Evening with Ray Boltz at the National City Christian Church. Boltz grew up in the Catholic Church and for many years was the soundtrack to many services, youth camps, and church groups. He was celebrated by millions until he came out in 2008. Allison remembers her community “never playing his music again.” 

Rainbows in Revolt is helping him to return to the church, and proving that identity does not need to be exclusive. We live in a complicated world with complicated lines being drawn. Boltz proves that these lines don’t exist, and will be breaking down barriers to bring together communities. To Allison, “a trans woman standing next to a straight white man in church is a powerful teacher.”

The Safe Space maps bridge all types of spaces, and one of the unlikely ones is, perhaps, churches. Matt said that “BYU has only nine safe spaces around their campus and seven of them are churches.” Not all churches are anti-gay, and many times they are the only place for people to find community.

Rainbows in Revolt is just getting started bridging gaps and building community.

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